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I Don't Believe In God

Once in awhile I am asked why I dont believe in god. Sometimes I am asked why I hate god. I will try to answer this in a civilized yet honest manner because I know how I come off, bigoted and over critical. So let me guide you how my mind works. I dont hate god. First off it's silly to hate something you dont believe exists. And no it's not a rejection of god as my coworker puts it, I simply deny his existence. It's not a rejection because I have never met him and dont say i have in a previous life or before my birth because you have no grounds to make that assumption.

I dont believe in him for the same reasoning i dont believe in any other god, or santa claus or the Easter bunny or even unicorns and trolls for that matter. Simply because the evidence is not concrete nor is it conclusive. It is not provable using methods of science logic or reasoning atleast not to my knowledge. Even if i knew beyond a shadow of a doubt he does in fact exist, i dont need him. It doesnt comfort me to know no matter what i do he is always watching, that he knows my struggles. If anything it angers me. That when I began to lose my faith when I was 18 he did not prove to me his existence. It angers me because if he in fact does witness my every action my every thought, he does nothing to console me, to help me. I imagine him lounging back in his lazy boy, beer in hand and enjoying the spectacle, watching me and others like me suffer. But this is beside the point.

Scraps of paper supposedly written thousands of years ago by goat herders of an otherwise alien culture and language is not proof of any sentient omniscient deity watching over us. The more I see what christianity does to people and the more history I read the more I come to the conclusion that it is nothing more than a method of controlling the masses by putting the fear of hellfire and damnation in their minds. What better way to control people than to put the fear of eternal pain and suffering if they dont do what you say. Not to mention the hordes of money it generates.

Proof of life and all its majesty, its complexity is not proof. Complicated concoctions such as biology, tectonic plates, ocean currents, habitable atmosphere is not exclusively the result of an intelligent creator. Science explains all this. The mystery of life for example is not such a mystery after all. If you learned anything from your biology classes, complicated lifeforms are the result of millions upon millions of years of evolution and natural selection. Life never use to be so complicated. In fact it was once simple. Single cell organisms are extraordinarily simple. No brains, no eyes, no lungs, no major organs like what we have. Not as complicated anyway.

Another point. Say a god does exist. Which god? Its estimated humans have existed anywhere from 8000 to 10000 years. Hundreds upon hundreds of cultures and religions have sprung up through the ages often derived from previous cultures. Christianity has ties to paganism,Judaism, and islam. It is not it's own thing, it isnt unique. So now we have the question of what goes we choose to believe in. There's Greek, Norse,Roman, egyptian, dozens of African religions, paganism, shinto, buddhism, Islam, the list goes on. So what makes the Christian God better? What makes him the right one? Christianity is only the 3rd largest religion. Islam takes first place. Apparently more people think islam is the answer. Everyone thinks they have the answer. All of them have religious texts and fantastic stories.

What I'm trying to say is there are too many variables, too many unanswered questions in have to make a definitive, informed and logical decision

So I came up with this: i cant believe in any of them. I will live my life based on my own morals that I will design. If I live a good life and God is just as everyone claims, then he will not be disappointed with my decision and will honor it. If he does not, I do not want his approval. I want nothing to do with an unjust, selfish, egotistical god
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Carazaa · F
"A fool says, There is no God." Psalm 14:1
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa brilliant argument. The veil is lifted, you have lifted my eyes to the light 😑
Carazaa · F
Those were God's words. He says "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-His eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse." Rom 1:20
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa you mean someone claims those are gods words. If I were to tell you your best friend, who is also my best friend, said you're a psychotic delusional miscreant or whatever, would you believe me? No, or atleast you shouldn't. Because you didnt hear it from your friends lips. Youd be trusting my word which is foolish
Carazaa · F
The Bible itself says
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness." 2 Tim 3:16

"In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS God, " He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made." "The word became flesh and dwelt among us. We have seen His Glory, the glory of the one and only Son", who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa oh well then that confirms it. If the bible said it's a magical fairy from the land of sugary sweets disguised as a dusty old tome then surely it must be. It's not like ancient authors can be pathological liars or anything
Carazaa · F
They wouldn't love people the way they did, nor die for their witness. Many were stoned to death. Jesus died because he loved you!
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa jesus died for our sins right? Lot of good it dead. Sure seems like he died in vain because last I checked there sure is a hell of a lot of sin in the world. Hunger, plague, war, suicide, murder, rape, theft, betrayal, etc. Many people die tragic deaths today. I dont see your point honestly.
Carazaa · F
Faith in Action

11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”[a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. 11 And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she[b] considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12 And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

17 By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, 18 even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[c] 19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.

20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.

21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.

23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.

24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. 27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. 28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.

29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.

31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.[d]

32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning;[e] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.

39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. Hebrews 11
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa I'm not interested in bible verses. I want to hear your own words your own logic. Copying and pasting is not an argument, rather it's a lack of one. I've read those verses before and I'm not impressed
Carazaa · F
How fast does the earth rotate each 24 hrs? 1000 miles an hour, But yet it seems we are still. This is a miracle. your phone did not create itself, neither did the amazing earth, nor the universe. God did.
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa miracle huh? Yeah it couldn't have anything to do with gravity and centripetal force. I think you just assumed that because you don't understand physics. Google that, you'll find an article that explains why we stand still. Hopefully you'll re-evaluate your definition of miracle
Carazaa · F
Was it a miracle that your phone was made? The Universe is MORE complicated than your phone.
Carazaa · F
A fool says no one made your phone. Of course someone made it!
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa miracle is just a fancy word for cop out. Everything can be explained. Everything is the result of something else. To say it's a miracle says you dont know the reason and dont care to know. You're satisfied with remaining ignorant. I want to know for sure why things the way they are, and using God as an explanation is a cop out. You're not doing the leg work, knowledge requires research, diligent research, hypothesis and testing. As the saying goes "nothing good ever comes easy"
Carazaa · F
God says that the only reason people deny Him is because of their sins.
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa lmao really now? Do you ever think for yourself? Sounds like you're just reiterating what others say. I deny him for the same reason I deny leprechauns. I've never seen one. Have you? No pot of gold at the end of rainbows either.
Carazaa · F
You'll have to account for your sins, or Jesus will if you love him. God says that All knees will bow to him one day. I don't like to warn people but Jesus wants us to spread the good news and he says that when all nations, and every nationality has heard then He is coming back to take us home.

I care about you so I just want you to pray for wisdom. God will reveal the truth if you really want the truth. We will see Jesus in this generation for sure.
Carazaa · F
"I am a consuming fire" God says @CuddleFeesh
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa you don't care for me. You dont know me. If I were to die tomorrow you wouldnt shed a tear. And no I refuse to bow. The only way I will bow is against my own will. I can appreciate his creating me, but I will not worship anyone. I am an individual. I am not a follower nor am I a leader I am me only and I go my own way.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa [quote]By faith[/quote]

Faith is merely pretending to know something that you do not actually know

How is pretence some sort of virtue?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa your phone did not create itself

My phone was designed by an intelligence, so therefore [i]everything[/i] was designed by an intelligence?

That's merely a [i]non sequitur[/I]
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Carazaa [quote]This is a miracle[/quote]

A miracle would involve the physical laws of the universe being violated.

A planet happily going about its business, and observing the physical laws of the universe, doesn't in any way qualify.
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@newjaninev2 I like this newcomer 😊
Carazaa · F
God spoke the universe into being. That's a miracle. How else did it happen?
CuddleFeesh · 31-35, M
@Carazaa cop out again. Lacks explanation. Like she said. It defies the laws of physics. These laws arent meant to be broken. By the way I doubt very much that was meant to be taken in literal terms. This is where physicists come in.