The Christian God does not exist

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If your God is of the Bible is of the Old Testament or the New Testament then your God does not exist. Because a real God would not be like the god of the Bible. He would not want you to worship Him or kill for him or have to be saved by him or to save you from hell. A true God would not want any of these things. He would love everyone equally and unconditionally.

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myfaithischristian · 36-40, F

How do you explain how the world appeared out of nothing then

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peterlee · M

@Diotrephes So that is how Goodness is understand.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@myfaithischristian The question is not whether a god as such exists, nor what it does, but the paradox between the Ancient Hebrews' concept of their particular god and the later concept of the same god.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@myfaithischristian

How do you explain how the world appeared out of nothing then

When you look into the clear sky do you see hail, snow, or rain? But they fall from the sky so how did they appear out of nothing?

You came from the union of a miscroscopic egg and and an invisible sperm. but here you are today, looking completely different and with all kinds of attributes.

The world evolved from different atoms created by celestial hydrogen going nuclear. Can you see the hydrogen before it clumps together?

peterlee · M

If you have spare time on your hands,why not volunteer with a cause you are interested in, and make a positive difference.

peterlee · M

Tim Keller’s, ‘Reasons for God’ might help you. Or join an Alpha course. There must be one near you.

peterlee · M

Ultimately you rely on God’s grace, His mercy and His Love

Keep searching my friend . He will find you.

James25 · 61-69, M

@peterlee none of what you just said is real

peterlee · M

@James25 I wish you well.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

The biblical God characters were simply the emperors who ruled the the ancient empires. When the last Babylonian emperor bit the dust and the empire collapsed around 530 BC, the biblical God character vanished.

peterlee · M

@Diotrephes It’s worth meditating on the Babylonian exilic Prophets. And their cry of why. A very rich source of insight and inspiration.

Jayciedubb · 56-60, M

If God is a he or a she, that implies there are more than one of them or else why would they have reproductive organs?

As far as the old and new testament go, they help make civilization more manageable, for what it's worth. It's possible there was a catastrophe that reset civilization around 12,000 years ago and the stories in the Bible were needed to help rebuild and reshape soceity into one that's more homogeneous

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The questions I have are not about God, they're about Jesus and his relation to God. It seems like his story has been hijacked and maybe manipulated by the same people who violently murdered him and it's all explained in the new testament. It's like a book of new rules that make room for the new story that actually defies the Ten Commandments.

James25 · 61-69, M

@peterlee I have no interest in your primitive religious beliefs

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Jayciedubb · 56-60, M

@James25 you're the one making assumptions. I don't need to discuss my beliefs with you or anyone else in order to continue believing what I believe. I don't know why you assume I'm a Christian or what I believe about the Bible anymore than what I may have already mentioned.

Furthermore, you assume to know about the Bible and about God you have no real knowledge of. That's what makes them assumptions.

Assuming you are indeed an Atheist, I wonder why you feel the need to attempt to disprove the beliefs that others find comforting when your beliefs, if Atheistic, don't offer anything to replace it with. Is it jealousy? ..a matter of misery loving company?

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Jayciedubb · 56-60, M

@Diotrephes My beliefs are none of your business. I don't know why you would jump to such a conclusion or be so rude about it. What are you trying to prove?

AbstractWave · 61-69, M

Yep an outdatedbook that’s all,

peterlee · M

@AbstractWave Can you give an example of a book that is contemporary and relevant?

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