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The one question that Christians cannot answer. I dare any Christian to answer this question.

If God is perfect and has always been perfect. And if God is good and has always been perfectly good, then God has never had to choose to be good. And God has never had to make the choice between Good and Evil. So for God to give humans the choice between good and evil is a logical fallacy.

Why would God create humans having to choose between good and evil when he himself never had to choose between Good and Evil? Why wouldn't God make humans perfectly good like himself?

Furthermore if God is perfect and has always been perfect. And if God is good and has always been perfectly good then it is impossible for God to create evil. Because to create evil is to not be perfectly good.
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PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
God could, in theory, also choose evil but it would go against his nature. That doesn't change the fact that God fully understands evil and the reasons why we do the things that we do. If we believe that God doesn't understand evil then we have diminished his power and glory. He is no longer ever knowing.

We were created in his image, also having the ability to choose because, if we were only created with the ability to do good, we would all be like robots. The value of a good choice would also be less if it was all we were able to do.
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James25 · 61-69, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 if God is perfectly good then he cannot choose evil. Because then he would not be perfectly good. Being perfectly good is the absence of evil. Being perfectly good is contingent on the absence of evil. And the question of whether God knows of evil is an interesting dilemma. Does it preclude being perfectly good knowing of evil?
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@James25 he *can" choose evil, he just doesn't. If we believe that there is anything beyond his ability then we limit him. There are many things that God could do but doesn't, we just can't understand it because our minds are limited.
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 how do you know any of this? It’s just conjecture.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@Ferise1 A personal relationship with Jesus. I know my God can't be limited, the rest is faith.
James25 · 61-69, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 your argument is flawed. If God can choose evil but doesn't then you create the possibility that God could choose to be evil. God cannot be perfectly good if he has a choice to possibly be evil. Allowing God to have the choice to be evil means that he is not perfectly good. Someone who's perfectly good cannot choose not to be evil. Being perfectly good is contingent on the absence of evil. Meaning the presence of evil in any shape or form be it knowing thought choice or action are absent.
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
@James25 how do you know?
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@James25 why can't God know about evil, have the possibility of choosing that but choose not to? Don't you think that having the possibility of doing evil but choosing not to is by far a greater good than not having the possibility so you are 'programmed' to only do good? Also, what is evil and who sets the bench mark that dictates that? Animals for example often kill each other sometimes for little reason other than amusement. Are they evil?
James25 · 61-69, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 look at it this way. When you die and go to heaven do you want there to continue to be thoughts of evil in your mind even though you will never ever choose them? Or would you rather have absolute perfect good thoughts all the time? If you were to die and go to heaven and a part of existing in heaven was having evil thoughts. Why would you want evil thoughts to even exist. For whatever moment that you are thinking don't you want all of them to be perfectly good thoughts. Having an evil thought takes away from having had a perfectly good thought. So being perfectly good is the absence of evil.
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
@James25 how do you even define evil?
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@James25 I think we will have a much greater and fuller understanding of our lives including an understanding of evil. The difference will be, the fullness of God's glory will have been revealed to us. The Bible tells us that in heaven there is a "great crowd of witnesses and they are cheering us on" Why are people in heaven cheering us on? It's because they can see the hurt and confusion that we are living on earth, where Gods glory isn't fully understood. The Bible also tells us that in heaven God will "wipe away every tear from their eyes, there will be no more death, grief, crying or pain" I'm a Sunday school teacher and I love your questions xx
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@Ferise1 what's amusing?
James25 · 61-69, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 none of what you said actually answers the question only presents logical fallacies.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@James25 I don't think I said anything complicated. You asked when I go to heaven, do I want to have evil thoughts? I am reasoning, based on scriptures that I previously showed you, that we will have full understanding of what we on earth think are evil but it will no longer affect us in the same way because the full glory of God is revealed to us along with the reasons why we have experienced what we have.
James25 · 61-69, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 you are simply replying with logical fallacies. Irrelevant statements with logic that cannot be validated. Your religious beliefs are irrelevant. Reasoning based on scripture is irrelevant. No valid logical conclusion can be drawn from your argument. The problem with your reasoning is that you understanding of God (if there is one) is erroneous. Your Christian beliefs and your Bible are simply a false understanding of reality.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@James25 Ok. I obviously don't agree. What I always find interesting is that you, like a lot of atheists, spend a great deal of time attempting to disprove the existence of something that you 'know' to not exist. Why do you do that? I won't be wasting my time arguing with you that there isn't a lollipop licking leprechaun in my underwear drawer for example yet here you are... Your soul already knows of God's existence. You're instinctively drawn here to argue because your heart needs to play catch up. If that wasn't true, you wouldn't be here.
James25 · 61-69, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 that is an incorrect assumption. I just want to see if you or anyone else is capable of proving your God exists. But none of you seem to be able to do that.