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The Dead Know Nothing? The Lord helps us understand Ecclesiastes 9:5

A lot of people read Ecclesiastes 9 5 and wonder:
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing.

Does that mean when someone dies, they just go to sleep and don’t know anything at all?

No. The Bible shows us they are very much alive in their spirit.

So what was Solomon saying?

Think about the book of Ecclesiastes. Solomon wrote it under the sun. That means he was looking at life from an earthly perspective. From what we can see here on earth.

Ecclesiastes 9 5 6 says: For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.

Did you catch that last part? Under the sun.

Solomon was not talking about Heaven or Hell. He was talking about this earth. Once a person dies, they no longer know what is happening here. They cannot go to work anymore. They cannot call their family. They cannot fix mistakes or make new plans. Their part in life under the sun is finished.

But their spirit? That lives on.

Jesus showed us this in Luke 16. The rich man died and went to hell. Lazarus died and went to be with Abraham. And both of them knew exactly where they were. They remembered. They felt. They spoke.

2 Corinthians 5 8 says: We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

When a Christian dies, we go to be with Jesus right away. We are more alive than ever.

So Ecclesiastes 9:5 is not saying the dead are unconscious.
It is saying their work on earth is done. The things of this world do not concern them anymore.

That is why it is so important to choose Jesus now, while we are still under the sun. Because after this life, there are only two places with Him, or without Him.

And for those of us who belong to Christ, death is not the end. It is going Home.

Philippians 1:23 says: I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far.

So do not be afraid of that verse. It is not about losing awareness. It is about God calling us to live for Him today, while we still can.
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CrazyChick21 · 46-50, F Best Comment
Thank you so much for sharing this. For some years I studied the Bible with some Jehovah's witnesses but there was always something that didn't feel right about what they were teaching. I also felt that there was lots in the Bible that was contradictory to their beliefs - this is one of those passages that cemented that decision - so I broke away and joined a Pentecostal church.

When my husband was dying, I prayed for God to hold me up throughout what was going on. I felt the most amazing sense of love and what I just seemed to know was the presence of God. It was like a physical hug and I had the sense that I was being held up. I still believe that God was showing me that I didn't need to fear because my husband was "at home" with him.
CrazyChick21 · 46-50, F
@LadyGrace it does seem that when we are at our lowest and in the worst possible place, that is when God shows up strongest. I'm thinking about the beatitudes at the moment. God has the biggest heart for those who are suffering and in pain.
@CrazyChick21 He sure does. I believe he shows up exactly not too soon and not too late, so that we will know for a fact that it was he who helped us and nothing else, as without him, things would not have turned around. That is when He is at his strongest when we find ourselves at our weakest.
CrazyChick21 · 46-50, F
@LadyGrace Amen! 🙏🙏🙏

DanielsASJ · 36-40, M
Living with God would be so wonderful. All the richness of the earth would fall short, the new trees, the new fruits we would have never tasted, all robed people, the mansion, the creatures, Angels, everything is so fantastic.

I think we, as in the people, try to mimic the establishments of The Heaven but we can never match by even 0.000000000000000001% because Heaven has no sin. Everyone, everywhere, there is Love around. There is God around.

I am gonna be a soldier in the Army of Jesus
@DanielsASJ Yes we are and how privileged and honored that will be to be by his side and fight alongside him, defeating Satan's armies.
th3r0n · 41-45, M
One point different, Jesus said Jehovah is the God of the living, not the dead, and that Abraham rejoiced to see His day

Physical death isn't the same as being truly dead
@th3r0n Amen! Thank you for sharing that. You’re so right.

Jesus said God is the God of the living. Abraham is alive with Him right now.

That is exactly what I was hoping people would see. Physical death is not the end for those in Christ. We just go Home to be with Him. I appreciate you adding Scripture to this. God bless you ♥

You’re saying the exact thing my devotional is saying — just in different words. That’s beautiful.

1. "Jesus said Jehovah is the God of the living, not the dead"
That’s Mark 12:27. Jesus said this about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
He is not the God of the dead but of the living.
Abraham is alive with God right now. His body died, but his spirit is living.
2. "Abraham rejoiced to see His day"
That’s John 8:56. Jesus said Abraham saw His day and was glad.
Abraham knew God, trusted God, and is alive with Him.
3. "Physical death isn't the same as being truly dead"
YES. That’s the whole point. The body sleeps in the ground. But the spirit goes to be with the Lord.
"Truly dead" in the Bible would be those separated from God forever. But for believers, we are alive with Christ the moment we close our eyes here.

 
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