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I always and still refuse to read it.

So I was a straight a student lots of friends very active never in trouble. When my parents or ppl in generally tried to push the bible. I refused to read it. I still do.
It recently came to my attention that ppl were or re trying to blame my parents for my not reading the bible. They tried a few times but I always refused. After awhile I had reasons based on logic and reason. So try to blaming nurture. But it was me that refused, they tried. I turned it into a waste of time. It's not gonna change. Like I said then I'll say now. How am I expected to have my own opinions/spiritual view of reality if I memorize one perspective on it and exclude any others. Imagine the 6 year old saying that to a priest telling him to read his bible.
How long would you argue with the 6 year old honor student?

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Adstar · 56-60, M

The Bible is the correct view of God and His will.. Wanting to have your own view is wanting to have a faulty view.. and anyway your the view you develop will be influences by other (Non -You) external influences.. So in the end the view you develop will both be faulty and still not 100% your view..

Obstinately excluding the Bible shuts the door to a wealth of wisdom and insight derived through hundreds of generations.

I would always have a go at reasoning with any 6 year old because i want that 6 year old to have an eternal life with God in His perfect existence..

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jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar and that is your view and opinion. Mine is that g_d and Christianity are not the same so not dependent on one another. And honestly saying g-d is undefinable yet this book is the only way to describe that entity. That is a disservice. I'm not nor was I ever willing to be locked in my perspective. I'm too open minded to be dictated wat to think and/or believe. Does g-d exist probably. Do have to be Christian to believe in god no. Do u have to read one book to understand no that be too narrow a perspective I have reasons for my position. Clear u too. So would u have forced the 6 year old to read it or might u have respected their freedom of religion? My parents and community respected mnne. Tried to get me into it but I never was.

exchrist · 36-40

@jehova preach when they removed that one sentence that god allegedly said. Actual word of god was removed hence exchrist. That was 2010 I think

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova An Open mind is not a defended mind.. An open mind is open to all kinds of deception.. Better to have a guided mind.. Garded by the Holy Spirit who leads us to all truths and eternal life..

depending on your own mind is depending on that which is faulty.. human minds are not perfect and thus depending on them is a sure way to the eternal lake of fire..

I hve never forced anyone to read the Bible.. But i will encourage people to read the Bible always.. Because it is the Way of salvation, The path to paradise..

exchrist · 36-40

@Adstar and I believe ur lying to urself to feel better about life. I was open minded enough to attend church hear the message but I'll never read it. Too old.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@exchrist Nope not lying to myself.. The LORD has made Himself known to me.. I have absolutely zero doubt that the God of Abraham is the one and only God of all existence and the one Way to have eternity with Him is through the LORD Jesus Christ..

I went to church for every Sunday for the first 17 years of my life and i NEVER heard the Message of the Gospel... Don't assume you have heard the message simply because you went to a church..

exchrist · 36-40

@Adstar I do not care have a good night we've been saying the same thing back and forth for a few days neither of us are gonna suddenly change our mind so bye. For now.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@exchrist So be it.. But when given a change i am going to say what i think is important,, is essential.. Only you are responsible for your personal response to the will of God.. I am just called to share the truth with whomsoever i meet.. So if you respond to my posts just know you may get the message again in the future..

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar and I agree it's on the individual that's what I've been saying this entire time. I don't read ancient texts and take them as factual. That's my individual perspective. And it is likely to be for a very long time

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova It is irrelevant if a message was written 10,000 years ago or it was written today.. The message is either correct or incorrect.. You either decide the message is true or it is false..

Now if one rejects a moral message of truth and calls it a lie then they have rejected the truth and therefore they have already judged themselves as evil because they are rejected the truth and called the truth a lie..

As Jesus explained..

(John 3:18) "¶ He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar I'm a skeptic first always have been if it's so infallible and truthfully why has it been change nearly a hundred times since it was "written"? Because it wasn't the message of the truth the clergy wanted. I'd be willing to read the original, not the several times edited badly translated version that's the current edition.

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar further Moses I'm pretty sure Abraham Mohammad and many others were also his "only" begotten son and until the next one took the title. It isn't that I don't believe it's that I don't follow blindly the "message" of the clergy. especially when the clergy and prints at all were deemed entirely unnecessary according to Jesus? Idk I've never read it I heard that a few times that Jesus said all u need is two ppl in a room. Priest were specifically called out as not a requirment. Or are the actual words of Jesus not true to you?

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova How about taking the time to be skeptical of your own skepticism ?

Someone told you that The Bible has been changed.. YOU DECIDED TO BELIEVE THAT REPORT.. Why?

Because something within the Word of God offends you and your desire is for it to be shown to be wrong and so you enthusiastically embraced a report that confirmed your bias against the Holy Bible..

Those who hate the love of the truth are given over to deception and delusion..

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar I did that and still do every two to three days but my stance on 'organized' religion of any kind. Only gets stronger as I try to gather evidence to the contrary. I tried I'm not gonna suddenly find comfort in broken mistranslated books mostly letters by the way, which is literally hearsay.

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar I know for fact that at the first council of nicea in about 1250 12 books were removed. Now known as the dead sea scrolls. I know for fact a single sentence was removed in 2013ish. So yes it's been change idk the exact number of times. But the 2013 removal killed it for me entirely.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova

@Adstar further Moses I'm pretty sure Abraham Mohammad and many others were also his "only" begotten son and until the next one took the title.

Nope only Jesus was called the Oly Beggoten Son... Abraham never held that title.. and muhammad has nothing what soi ever to do with the God of Abraham.. muhammad was just another joseph smith but from eariler times..

It isn't that I don't believe it's that I don't follow blindly the "message" of the clergy.

Neither do i.. I follow the Word of God.. I have never preached to anyone to follow the clergy.. Follow Jesus not men..

Idk I've never read it I heard that a few times that Jesus said all u need is two ppl in a room.

True.. two gathered in His name and He will be there with them.. But we have the Holy Spirit with us always even when we are alone..

Priest were specifically called out as not a requirment. Or are the actual words of Jesus not true to you?

I never said they where.. Why are you pasting positons upon me that i have never expressed? I am not in the catholic religon so of course i do not promote priests.. I am not here to defend the catholic religon.. I am a Christian. Not a catholic..

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar I'm not I'm staying my position and the clergy took control of the message and edited it. thus I'd read the original not the bs the clergy and man created from it.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova

@Adstar I know for fact that at the first council of nicea in about 1250 12 books were removed. Now known as the dead sea scrolls.

You don't know for a fact.. Someone told you that and YOU embraced it because it massarged your anti Bible bias.. The Dead sea scrolls pre-dated the life of Jesus by 100 years at lest.. And the scrolls included the books of the Old testament..

I know for fact a single sentence was removed in 2013ish.

No you don't.. Someone told you that and you swallowed it hook line and sinker..

jehova · 36-40, M

So my question more precisely is wouldn't u like to see just how much it's been changed only the original text in Aramaic by the way would reveal that

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar I know that event happened the dead sea scrolls were found and u were told the bible was fact and follow as such is that any different. My facts can be sources from more than one article or document can the bible? As far as I know it stands alone.

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova

@Adstar I'm not I'm staying my position and the clergy took control of the message and edited it. thus I'd read the original not the bs the clergy and man created from it.

No you have not read the original.. You have read something that CLAIMS to be the original and your anti-Bible bias lead you to simply believe the claim and run with it..

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar I would read not I have I definitely havent

Adstar · 56-60, M

@jehova

So my question more precisely is wouldn't u like to see just how much it's been changed only the original text in Aramaic by the way would reveal that

The Original Old Testament was written in Hebrew Text
The Original New Testament was written in Ancient Greek..

So No i would not like to see what an Aramaic scripture falsely claiming to be the original says

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar look we can spar forever u were also told the bible was absolutely true. So u believed and followed. No different really. More ppl follow than don't is it the many that is so attractive to so many?

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar ok so now there are three version yet before only one so which is it? But it was never changed. Translation alone is a change

jehova · 36-40, M

@Adstar also never said the bible was incorrect I just think it's too ancient just like the Torah and quaran to be reliable so I refuse to read it or any of them really.

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