I do like what you said here, that we are not "gods" in nature.
Lostpoet · M
We were just discussing this in Bible study and the geneology of Jesus Christ. How Mathew writes the geneology of Joseph all the way to David and Luke writes of Mary's geneology all the way to 🤔 I forget. Anyways Jesus is the Messiah prophesied.
Also since he was Virgin born he was 💯 man through the blood of Mary And 💯 God through the Holy spirit. It got me thinking too that Mary can only give XX chromosome and Jesus was her son so Jesus was also 💯 Woman and 💯 God. 🥺I didn't say nothing though because we were already discussing it for an hour and I didn't want it to go on.
Also since he was Virgin born he was 💯 man through the blood of Mary And 💯 God through the Holy spirit. It got me thinking too that Mary can only give XX chromosome and Jesus was her son so Jesus was also 💯 Woman and 💯 God. 🥺I didn't say nothing though because we were already discussing it for an hour and I didn't want it to go on.
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Lostpoet · M
@YoMomma God is the Word and knowledge. I think we are all spirits in biological flesh. But it was a good talk and through geneology it proves Jesus was the Messiah and he fulfilled all the prophecies written about him hundreds of years before he was even born. And one of those prophecies was even that the Messiah would be virgin born. The way they said it made everything make sense my head kinda fudled it up a bit.
@Vengabus You must be into the Oneness movement, am I right?
In 2 Peter 1:4, it says we're "partakers of the divine nature." However, this verse is often understood in the context of our new nature in Christ, and our being transformed by God's grace. We're not divine in the same way Jesus is, but we're called to reflect God's character and nature in our lives.
The key distinction lies in the nature of our divinity versus Jesus'. He's divine by nature, while we're made in God's image and redeemed by His grace. We're recipients of God's divine love, care, and power, but we're not the source of divinity itself. We are not little gods and we never will be. You said it yourself below...."I don’t think we are born with a spark of divinity. Just life."
If we were divine in the same way God is, we would indeed be all-knowing, all-powerful, and infallible. We wouldn't make mistakes or have limitations. But as humans, we're finite, fallible, and prone to errors. That's why we need God's guidance, wisdom, and redemption.
It's a beautiful thing that God loves us despite our imperfections and works with us to help us grow and become more like Christ. Our limitations and mistakes can actually be opportunities for us to learn, grow, and rely on God's strength and wisdom.
In 2 Peter 1:4, it says we're "partakers of the divine nature." However, this verse is often understood in the context of our new nature in Christ, and our being transformed by God's grace. We're not divine in the same way Jesus is, but we're called to reflect God's character and nature in our lives.
The key distinction lies in the nature of our divinity versus Jesus'. He's divine by nature, while we're made in God's image and redeemed by His grace. We're recipients of God's divine love, care, and power, but we're not the source of divinity itself. We are not little gods and we never will be. You said it yourself below...."I don’t think we are born with a spark of divinity. Just life."
If we were divine in the same way God is, we would indeed be all-knowing, all-powerful, and infallible. We wouldn't make mistakes or have limitations. But as humans, we're finite, fallible, and prone to errors. That's why we need God's guidance, wisdom, and redemption.
It's a beautiful thing that God loves us despite our imperfections and works with us to help us grow and become more like Christ. Our limitations and mistakes can actually be opportunities for us to learn, grow, and rely on God's strength and wisdom.
@Vengabus Your wording is confusing then.
"That is how we and the father become one and we become the divine."
We can never become divine like Jesus, that's what I'm getting at. If we were divine in the same way God is, we would indeed be all-knowing, all-powerful, and infallible. We wouldn't make mistakes or have limitations. But as humans, we're finite, fallible, and prone to errors. That's why we need God's guidance, wisdom, and redemption.
The Bible does teach that we're united with Christ and called to be one with Him, but it also maintains the distinction between God's nature and ours.
"That is how we and the father become one and we become the divine."
We can never become divine like Jesus, that's what I'm getting at. If we were divine in the same way God is, we would indeed be all-knowing, all-powerful, and infallible. We wouldn't make mistakes or have limitations. But as humans, we're finite, fallible, and prone to errors. That's why we need God's guidance, wisdom, and redemption.
The Bible does teach that we're united with Christ and called to be one with Him, but it also maintains the distinction between God's nature and ours.
4meAndyou · F
Human beings were created when God the Father breathed the breath of life into Adam. By doing so, He placed a tiny bit of His own divine spirit inside the first man. That was the Holy Spirit...or God within us.
It is THIS divine spark that leads us to become more...to become better than the rude clay from which God made us.
It is THIS divine spark that leads us to become more...to become better than the rude clay from which God made us.
4meAndyou · F
@Vengabus SOME people agree with you.
"No, the idea of a divine spark, as held by Gnosticism and mysticism, is not biblical. But there are some biblical truths that are somewhat similar to the idea of a divine spark. Genesis 1:26 teaches that every human being possesses the image of God. Ecclesiastes 3:11 declares that God has “set eternity in the hearts of men.” In Luke 17:21, Jesus proclaims, “The kingdom of God is within you.” The Bible teaches that every human being possesses an immaterial soul-spirit, and it is this part of us that connects with God (Hebrews 4:12).
From these verses we learn that each of us possesses a soul-spirit, is made in the image of God, and is innately aware of eternity. However, only a person who has been redeemed by Christ can truly connect with God. The indwelling kingdom of God is true only for believers in Jesus Christ. These scriptural principles do not teach a “divine spark,” as commonly defined. Whatever “divine spark” there ever was in humanity was snuffed out by sin (Romans 3:10-23). Without the truth and life of Jesus Christ (John 14:6), there is no “spark.” Without a relationship with the light of the world (John 8:12), there can be no light (2 Corinthians 4:4)."
https://www.gotquestions.org/divine-spark.html
"No, the idea of a divine spark, as held by Gnosticism and mysticism, is not biblical. But there are some biblical truths that are somewhat similar to the idea of a divine spark. Genesis 1:26 teaches that every human being possesses the image of God. Ecclesiastes 3:11 declares that God has “set eternity in the hearts of men.” In Luke 17:21, Jesus proclaims, “The kingdom of God is within you.” The Bible teaches that every human being possesses an immaterial soul-spirit, and it is this part of us that connects with God (Hebrews 4:12).
From these verses we learn that each of us possesses a soul-spirit, is made in the image of God, and is innately aware of eternity. However, only a person who has been redeemed by Christ can truly connect with God. The indwelling kingdom of God is true only for believers in Jesus Christ. These scriptural principles do not teach a “divine spark,” as commonly defined. Whatever “divine spark” there ever was in humanity was snuffed out by sin (Romans 3:10-23). Without the truth and life of Jesus Christ (John 14:6), there is no “spark.” Without a relationship with the light of the world (John 8:12), there can be no light (2 Corinthians 4:4)."
https://www.gotquestions.org/divine-spark.html