No Free Will

I truly believe that there is no free will. This is my reasoning for it:

To me free will means we choose our path/destination in life. Free will would give us the choice to choose to go left or right when a fork appears in our road of life.

However God is supposed to be all seeing and all knowing, which i believe in. So if God is all seeing and all knowing God already k ows which path each of us will take. If God knows which path we will take than we have no free will because God already knows whoch path we will choose.

If you claim that you have free will and your path isn't already chosen than you can not claim that Gos is all seeing and all knowing. And by your point of view, God doesn't know all and see all, which would thus make God cease to exist.

This is of course the most simplest way to state what free will is but if you spent half a second thinking about it you'll realize I'm correct. If you disagree you're either closed minded or too ignorant to think it through

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AkioTsukino · M

[quote]I truly believe that there is no free will. [/quote]

Okay.

[quote]To me free will means we choose our path/destination in life.[/quote]

Free to choose it and make it if possible, in spite of obstacles which we must overcome, given our physical, mental, intellectual, geographical, temporal etc. circumstance.

[quote]Free will would give us the choice to choose to go left or right when a fork appears in our road of life.[/quote]

So, if it is my will to change your will am I free to do that? I could incapacitate you. I could sabotage your efforts, I could get rid of the fork. If there weren't any fork in the first place would you still be able to consider it? Could you make your own fork?

[quote]However God is supposed to be all seeing and all knowing, which i believe in.[/quote]

Why do you believe it? Can I convince you otherwise? Can God make you disbelieve it? If so, how?

[quote]So if God is all seeing and all knowing God already knows which path each of us will take. If God knows which path we will take than we have no free will because God already knows which path we will choose.[/quote]

How does God knowing which path you choose determine your choice?

[quote]If you claim that you have free will and your path isn't already chosen than you can not claim that God is all seeing and all knowing. [/quote]

Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please? You still have made the choice, not God. And you still have to determine what all knowing and all seeing means and if the Bible describes God that way. Which, by the way, you have the choice of doing and may even choose the wrong answer.

[quote]And by your point of view, God doesn't know all and see all, which would thus make God cease to exist.[/quote]

You're making a few silly assumptions. God doesn't know or see all but that isn't any reason to determine he doesn't exist, nor is it reason for him in fact not to exist. At the least it is an example of your exercise of free will independent of God's existence or lack thereof.

[quote]This is of course the most simplest way to state what free will is but if you spent half a second thinking about it you'll realize I'm correct.[/quote]

I'm free to disagree.

[quote]If you disagree you're either closed minded or too ignorant to think it through[/quote]

Oh, well, then, why didn't you say so.