The God of nature and the God of supernature

By the God of nature, I refer to the God that man knows from his reason and intelligence.

By the God of supernature, I refer to the God that Christians know from the Bible (or the Koran for Muslims).

Here is my division of the three ways man comes to know God exists:
1. By reasoning
2. By reading the Bible (or the Koran for Muslims)
3. By meditation

From my part, I know God exists by the num 1 modus i.e. reasoning.

What about everyone else here, in particular I like to ask atheists whether they know about God (and deny He exists) by which way: num 1 or num 2 or num 3 ?

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yrger · 80-89, M

@DocSavage

You know better, so let you tell me what is your ultimate explanation of how and why you are existing, and don't say that you don't know, unless you are like the cattle and the donkeys and the frogs (no insult intended to these otherwise noble creations of God).

And hi DocSage, please don't lace your posts with tihs (read that from right to left), unless you have nothing in your brain except tihs.

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DocSavage · M
@yrger/stoolsample
You are talking shit. Your ultimate god, has some influence on our reality or he doesn’t exist. You’re the one who says he’s self existing, you’re the one that says he’s permanent, you’re the one who says he’s the operator of everything that isn’t god. Non of those conform to the nature of this reality. He lives outside of time and space, he invented love. How exactly did he accomplish all this ? Where do you see all this happening by design?
If your god has no powers, he can’t influence anything. It’s like he was never there to begin with. That’s because he wasn’t.

DocSavage · M

@yrger/chunkhead

You know better, so let you tell me what is your ultimate explanation of how and why you are existing, and don't say that you don't know, unless you are like the cattle and the donkeys and the frogs (no insult intended to these otherwise noble creations of God)

What part of ultimate, self existing, permanent universe are you not clear on chunkhead ? The universe is here, it has always been here in one form or another, and will still be here when we’re gone. Life developed within it in part as a reaction of organic chemicals and natural processes. No god , nature or super nature involved. Clear as day, unless you are like rocks, or cattle or donkey shit lying on the ground, you would know this is true.