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The God of nature and the God of supernature

By the God of nature, I refer to the God that man knows from his reason and intelligence.

By the God of supernature, I refer to the God that Christians know from the Bible (or the Koran for Muslims).


Here is my division of the three ways man comes to know God exists:
1. By reasoning
2. By reading the Bible (or the Koran for Muslims)
3. By meditation


From my part, I know God exists by the num 1 modus i.e. reasoning.


What about everyone else here, in particular I like to ask atheists whether they know about God (and deny He exists) by which way: num 1 or num 2 or num 3 ?
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DocSavage · M
yrger/stoolsample
So far, in the last three threads, you’ve run away twice, and one the third you cried like a little girl. You’re getting boring.
yrger · 80-89, M
@DocSavage

See this post from me: (And increase your IQ.)


yrger · 80-89, M
@DocSavage Yes, I will prove God exists, otherwise we have no ultimate explanation why we are existing whereas we were not existing previously - but you must read me carefully, and give me some cooperation.

1. I am a rationally and intelligently curious person, do you understant that - or you have no rational and intelligent curiosity, in which case you must have a very low IQ.

2. I always want to get to the ultimate explanation of things and why people do what they do, if you ae not like me, then you must have a very low IQ.

3. At this point you will be hollering this word tihs (read it from right to left) at me, and I say to myself, this savage must truly and really have very very very low IQ.
DocSavage · M
@yrger/stoolsample

I thought you were going to prove god exist. Everyone is already clear you’re a narcissist idiot.
As I said before, if you haven’t got anything new. Just cut and paste you last three threads. This is getting old. Ultimately boring.
yrger · 80-89, M
@DocSavage

Answer this question on the basis that you are rational intelligent and productive:

Is the default status of reality existence or not?
DocSavage · M
@yrger/stoolsample

There’s no way to tell. If non existence is default, you won’t know it.
Think rationally.
yrger · 80-89, M
@DocSavage

You see I always want to exchange ideas and information and knowledge with another human, but everyone who did care to discuss with me, they literally run away because they had already depleted their 'knowledge'.

Are you a knowledge person, in which case I do care to exchange knowledge with you.

So, to the issue, "Is the default status of reality existence or not?"

You and I are correct, there is only existence that is reality, and there is never any default status of reality that is nothingness.

Now, the next question I propose we answer and agree on is this: Do we have an example of some entity or thing that is self-existent, because his or its default status is self-existence?

What do you say, DocSavage.
DocSavage · M
@yrger/stoolsample
BOLLOCKS !
People don’t run away from you. They turn away in discuss . When it comes down an intellectual exchange, you have nothing to offer that hasn’t been refuted four threads earlier. You got nothing. If a god did in fact create time and space, then you’re a waste of both. Ultimately, it is pointless to continue any thread with you. You just keep repeating the same old shit.