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Charity · 70-79
Lack of understanding.
Old Testament _ Genesis _ let us make man in our image - man has become as one of us - more than one entity.
New Testament _ in the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was God - two entities
Old Testament _ Psalms 110 David speaking and THE Lord said unto MY Lord set thou at my right hand until I meet thine enemies thy footstool two entities both gods ....….( Lord is the English translation of Adone (Old Testament Yahweh as God / New Testament Yeshua-Jesus in the flesh human form.) and so much more
Old Testament _ Genesis _ let us make man in our image - man has become as one of us - more than one entity.
New Testament _ in the beginning was the word and the Word was with God and the Word was God - two entities
Old Testament _ Psalms 110 David speaking and THE Lord said unto MY Lord set thou at my right hand until I meet thine enemies thy footstool two entities both gods ....….( Lord is the English translation of Adone (Old Testament Yahweh as God / New Testament Yeshua-Jesus in the flesh human form.) and so much more
dexterrr22 · 22-25, M
@Charity i don't like the idea that theres to version of a holy book, it supposed to be one
Charity · 70-79
@dexterrr22 man and the Free Will that man has allows him to view ideas / things differently.
There is only one truth. This man is voicing his own views; he doesn't believe in the Divinity of Christ, fine / there are people on this thread who don't believe in the Divinity of Christ, fine - it is their prerogative.
The Hebrew Israelite scriptures of the Old testament is the oldest, at least 3500 years and even they the Pharisees and Sadducees were teaching the people in error.
Christianity is next being just over 2,000 years.
Islam is next being around 1400 years.
Now the oldest, the Hebrew / Israelites didn't get it right and they had the Angels, they had the prophets of God, they even had God communicating with them and they still got it wrong; what do you think the people who were grafted in afterwards are going to do.
The Hebrews / Israelites of Judaism are still waiting for the Messiah.... And considering their teachings they are actually waiting for the last days when the Messiah sets up his kingdom..... and whether some of the scriptures were never recovered / rewritten from the at least three times of the destruction of their scrolls or the selfish self-centeredness of the Sadducees and Pharisees in their teachings rejecting anything in the Old testament concerning the Lord being born in a human body or the Divinity of Jesus after all they're the ones that had him executed, and doing so trying to keep their hands clean; why wouldn't they lie.
There is only one truth. This man is voicing his own views; he doesn't believe in the Divinity of Christ, fine / there are people on this thread who don't believe in the Divinity of Christ, fine - it is their prerogative.
The Hebrew Israelite scriptures of the Old testament is the oldest, at least 3500 years and even they the Pharisees and Sadducees were teaching the people in error.
Christianity is next being just over 2,000 years.
Islam is next being around 1400 years.
Now the oldest, the Hebrew / Israelites didn't get it right and they had the Angels, they had the prophets of God, they even had God communicating with them and they still got it wrong; what do you think the people who were grafted in afterwards are going to do.
The Hebrews / Israelites of Judaism are still waiting for the Messiah.... And considering their teachings they are actually waiting for the last days when the Messiah sets up his kingdom..... and whether some of the scriptures were never recovered / rewritten from the at least three times of the destruction of their scrolls or the selfish self-centeredness of the Sadducees and Pharisees in their teachings rejecting anything in the Old testament concerning the Lord being born in a human body or the Divinity of Jesus after all they're the ones that had him executed, and doing so trying to keep their hands clean; why wouldn't they lie.
PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
There are so many passages that point to Jesus as God here are just a few of the most obvious ones.
Isaiah 7:14
14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[a] a sign: The virgin[b] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[c] will call him Immanuel
Matthew 1:22-23
22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[a] (which means “God with us”).
John 1:1, 14: States, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God," and that "the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us."
John 20:28: The disciple Thomas falls before the resurrected Jesus and calls him, "My Lord and my God!"
Colossians 2:9: States that in Christ "all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
John 8:58: Jesus claims the eternal name of God ("I AM"), saying, "Very truly I tell you, before Abraham was born, I am!"
John 10:30: Jesus states, "I and the Father are one." His audience understood this as a claim to be God, resulting in them attempting to stone him for blasphemy.
Isaiah 7:14
14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[a] a sign: The virgin[b] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[c] will call him Immanuel
Matthew 1:22-23
22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[a] (which means “God with us”).
John 1:1, 14: States, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God," and that "the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us."
John 20:28: The disciple Thomas falls before the resurrected Jesus and calls him, "My Lord and my God!"
Colossians 2:9: States that in Christ "all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
John 8:58: Jesus claims the eternal name of God ("I AM"), saying, "Very truly I tell you, before Abraham was born, I am!"
John 10:30: Jesus states, "I and the Father are one." His audience understood this as a claim to be God, resulting in them attempting to stone him for blasphemy.
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PatientlyWaiting25 · 46-50, F
@dexterrr22 the Qur'an was written about 600 years after the Bible. We know that the Bible has not been altered or "corrupted" because we have well over 24,000 ancient fragments and manuscripts that have been scrutinized through the science of textual criticism.
dexterrr22 · 22-25, M
@PatientlyWaiting25 we also know that the quran is not corupted, look let's stop it here, both of us know how to read, if we are interested in reading the two holy book we will do it by ourselves
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@dexterrr22 You know nothing about the provenance of the Quran. There are around 26 versions of it prior to 1924. Even the 4 oldest versions don't agree with each other on very fundamental issues.
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dexterrr22 · 22-25, M
@hippyjoe1955 there's why he become muslim, i don't try to convince anyone in this post, i'm just tryin to share what i believe is true
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@dexterrr22 As am I. I know that the quran is false. It was finally established as a book in 1924 then edited again in 1989. Unlike the Bible whose texts were all decided and listed in the 2nd century. IOW within 50 years of the actual texts being written. The Bible has also undergone extremely rigorous textual criticism and has been shown to be valid. The Quran can not even come close to that kind of rigour before falling apart. We don't even have actual evidence of Mohammed ever existing let alone where he was born. The places in mentioned in the Quran and idolized in Islam don't even meet the descriptions of the places the Quran describes. What we do know is that Mecca is not the place described.
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
If I saw Muhammadians too as a looker, I wouldn't consider it either