Is the teaching of Jesus the teaching of Judaism?
All the disciples of Jesus were Jews. The Old Testament is taken from the Hebrew Bible. The New Testament is based mainly on Paul's writings, and Paul was a Jew. Is Christianity a Jewish sect?
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Charity · 70-79
In all honesty a thousand years or so ago it probably could be considered a sect of Judaism going by the definition of the word....... But today the definition wouldn't apply because there are over 2 billion Christians to whereas there are only a few million who worship in Judaism.
Belief in the same God - but as people are - as people do - because they disagree they separate themselves.
Jews do not believe in the Divinity of Christ to where as Christians do are at least most Christians I am learning there are some who identify as Christians don't believe in the Divinity of Christ either - Jews still acknowledge some of the teachings if the Old Testament past down through the millennias to where as Christians don't.
And actually Jesus taught Judaism, he obey the laws and corrected how the laws were used where necessary, even if rejected.
Belief in the same God - but as people are - as people do - because they disagree they separate themselves.
Jews do not believe in the Divinity of Christ to where as Christians do are at least most Christians I am learning there are some who identify as Christians don't believe in the Divinity of Christ either - Jews still acknowledge some of the teachings if the Old Testament past down through the millennias to where as Christians don't.
And actually Jesus taught Judaism, he obey the laws and corrected how the laws were used where necessary, even if rejected.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Charity
Numbers don't count. A son who weighs more than his father is still his father's son.
Religious fundamentals of Judaism and Christianity are the same. There may be more than one way to skin the cat. It is not the skinning but the cat.
At any rate, both Jews and Christian worship the same God.
This is what the Jews - whose scriptures form the Christian Bible - said.
In all honesty a thousand years or so ago it probably could be considered a sect of Judaism going by the definition of the word....... But today the definition wouldn't apply because there are over 2 billion Christians to whereas there are only a few million who worship in Judaism.
Numbers don't count. A son who weighs more than his father is still his father's son.
Belief in the same God - but as people are - as people do - because they disagree they separate themselves.
Religious fundamentals of Judaism and Christianity are the same. There may be more than one way to skin the cat. It is not the skinning but the cat.
Jews do not believe in the Divinity of Christ to where as Christians do are at least most Christians I am learning there are some who identify as Christians don't believe in the Divinity of Christ either - Jews still acknowledge some of the teachings if the Old Testament past down through the millennias to where as Christians don't.
At any rate, both Jews and Christian worship the same God.
And actually Jesus taught Judaism, he obey the laws and corrected how the laws were used where necessary, even if rejected.
This is what the Jews - whose scriptures form the Christian Bible - said.
Charity · 70-79
@sree251 "numbers don't count" -we're not talking about weight / I am talking about the number of people defining SEC as a smaller group from a larger group, and if you don't see the difference, so what.
"Fundamentals are the same" didn't I say they believe in the same God and actually said it first, where is your mind, too busy trying to be anti. And apparently you don't know anything about skinning an animal there is only one way to skin any animal including a cat, whether you start at the head, the tail, the foot, or in the middle.
"At any rate both you and Christian worship the same God" I Already said they worship the same God.
Jews don't have the New Testament in the Torah / Hebrew Bible scriptures.
a SECT BECOMES A MAIN OR MAINSTREAM GROUP when it's belief systems move from a cognitive minority to a cognitive majority within a specific social context
As I said 2 billion to a 15 to 20 million it changed.
"Fundamentals are the same" didn't I say they believe in the same God and actually said it first, where is your mind, too busy trying to be anti. And apparently you don't know anything about skinning an animal there is only one way to skin any animal including a cat, whether you start at the head, the tail, the foot, or in the middle.
"At any rate both you and Christian worship the same God" I Already said they worship the same God.
Jews don't have the New Testament in the Torah / Hebrew Bible scriptures.
a SECT BECOMES A MAIN OR MAINSTREAM GROUP when it's belief systems move from a cognitive minority to a cognitive majority within a specific social context
As I said 2 billion to a 15 to 20 million it changed.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Charity
The New Testament comprise scriptures that were also written by Jews. Religious scriptures in the Old Testament were taken verbatim from the Hebrew Bible.
By the way, Jesus did not teach Judaism just as Jesus did not teach Buddhism. Similarly, you can't change Hindu teachings and say you are teaching Hinduism.
Jews don't have the New Testament in the Torah / Hebrew Bible scriptures.
The New Testament comprise scriptures that were also written by Jews. Religious scriptures in the Old Testament were taken verbatim from the Hebrew Bible.
By the way, Jesus did not teach Judaism just as Jesus did not teach Buddhism. Similarly, you can't change Hindu teachings and say you are teaching Hinduism.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Charity
You are talking about skinning a cat with a knife using your hands to cut through its skin. How about some creative thinking? In this day and age when we can bear a child outside a mother's womb, skinning a cat without a knife is not undoable.
"Fundamentals are the same" didn't I say they believe in the same God and actually said it first, where is your mind, too busy trying to be anti. And apparently you don't know anything about skinning an animal there is only one way to skin any animal including a cat, whether you start at the head the tail the foot or in the middle.
You are talking about skinning a cat with a knife using your hands to cut through its skin. How about some creative thinking? In this day and age when we can bear a child outside a mother's womb, skinning a cat without a knife is not undoable.
Charity · 70-79
@sree251
The New Testament was written in Greek / translated from Greek.
Jesus taught what is called Judaism today, and those days they had no word for it they only referred to the scribes of the Pharisees and Sadducees so you're by the way has no merit.
And in case you missed my edit on my previous reply
A SECT BECOMES A MAIN OR MAINSTREAM GROUP when it's belief system moves from a cognitive minority to a cognitive majority within a specific social context 2 billion to 15 million / Christianity is no longer a sect
The New Testament was written in Greek / translated from Greek.
Jesus taught what is called Judaism today, and those days they had no word for it they only referred to the scribes of the Pharisees and Sadducees so you're by the way has no merit.
And in case you missed my edit on my previous reply
A SECT BECOMES A MAIN OR MAINSTREAM GROUP when it's belief system moves from a cognitive minority to a cognitive majority within a specific social context 2 billion to 15 million / Christianity is no longer a sect
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@Charity
That's wrong. You couldn't find an authentic original copy written in Greek for all of the gold in the galaxy. If you can, then produce it for analysis.
The Catholics wrote the entire Bible using a committee in the 680s-early 690s to produce three master copies in Latin in response to the Koran, written in the 630s. The books weighed 75 pounds and one copy still exists. All Bibles after that were translations.
The New Testament was written in Greek / translated from Greek.
That's wrong. You couldn't find an authentic original copy written in Greek for all of the gold in the galaxy. If you can, then produce it for analysis.
The Catholics wrote the entire Bible using a committee in the 680s-early 690s to produce three master copies in Latin in response to the Koran, written in the 630s. The books weighed 75 pounds and one copy still exists. All Bibles after that were translations.
Charity · 70-79
@Diotrephes
SO SAY YOU in your opinion about the Catholics writing the NEW TESTAMENT in the 7th century / there is some information that should only be trusted by scholars not personal opinions, then you don't believe in God anyway........................................
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YOU ARE CORRECT to say there are no KNOW original transcripts only copies of the letters Paul wrote.
What is now called the Catholic church in the 4th century comprise / meaning put together / the ALREADY TRANSLATED TO LATIN New Testament and Old Testament into rolls or Scrolls..... The Bibles you are speaking of were produce with a combination of the Old and New Testament weighing anywhere from 60 to 70 lb after the 12th century from already translated works that were written on papayrus, or animal skins - such as the Gutenberg Bible produced in the 15th century.........
What is a Gutenberg Bible? And why is it relevant 500 years after its printing? https://share.google/bOm9IDQWmNu9Xggqd
Was the New Testament Written in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek? https://share.google/ZFxIlZT92EFLjGKL6
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SO SAY YOU in your opinion about the Catholics writing the NEW TESTAMENT in the 7th century / there is some information that should only be trusted by scholars not personal opinions, then you don't believe in God anyway........................................
Why Was New Testament Written in Greek? https://share.google/4bSt1TMPIvNaGcKrt
What Was the Original Language of the Bible? (Old & New Testament) https://share.google/cCggkGPIg8cr3yIxP
What Language Was the Bible Written In? | Bible Gateway News & Knowledge https://share.google/uuYWRJGv8DQ84A8LL
YOU ARE CORRECT to say there are no KNOW original transcripts only copies of the letters Paul wrote.
What is now called the Catholic church in the 4th century comprise / meaning put together / the ALREADY TRANSLATED TO LATIN New Testament and Old Testament into rolls or Scrolls..... The Bibles you are speaking of were produce with a combination of the Old and New Testament weighing anywhere from 60 to 70 lb after the 12th century from already translated works that were written on papayrus, or animal skins - such as the Gutenberg Bible produced in the 15th century.........
What is a Gutenberg Bible? And why is it relevant 500 years after its printing? https://share.google/bOm9IDQWmNu9Xggqd
Was the New Testament Written in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek? https://share.google/ZFxIlZT92EFLjGKL6
Timeline of Bible History – 316 Antique Bibles https://share.google/ZesSXtMzK00ziqbSP