Question for Christians who have actually read their Bible:
Did you find that when you were reading through the New Testament that the prophecies referenced from the Old Testament about Jesus don't seem to apply to Jesus very well?
Eg> Isaiah 7:14 where a child is to be born to a pregnant woman and he shall be named Immanuel and this sign of the lord was meant for King Ahaz and fulfilled within the time frame of that child's life. And yet this is referenced in Matthew as a prophecy of Jesus.
What the heck?
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I've heard that justification before...but since in Isaiah, god is saying he's going to give a sign to Ahaz, how do you interpret that as a vague allusion to Jesus rather than " God is with us" referring to the lord's promised sing to Ahaz and his victory?
I suppose he could do whatever he wants...but what reason is there to suppose that the prophecy in isaiah which appears to be made for a specific event and fulfilled within a timeline contained within that chapter also applies broadly?
This is what im saying. One reads the NT and sees a reference to a prophecy in the OT but when one goes back to read it...it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Jesus and one must ( as you have) undergo a series of mental gymnastics in order to make it seem as if it does.
In the Bible i only know of the ones in Exodus 20 and Exodus 34. Are there more?
The ones in Exodus chapter 20 are not the real Ten Commandments. They were verbal and never written on the stone tablets. The ones in Exoduschapter 20 were written pn stone tablets and called the Ten Commandments in Exodus 34:28 (NKJV) = "28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the [a]Ten Commandments."
It's important to know what the real Ten Commandments are because all of the stories i the Old and New Testament illustrate one or more of them. The stories themselves are like quizzes. When the listener, or reader, hears or reads a story he is supposed to link one of the real Ten Commandments to it. You can't do that with the fake ones from Exodus chapter 20 or from Deuteronomy chapter 5.
So did you have a comment on the subject of this thread?
The Jesus character spoke of the Ten Commandments. If you don't know what the real ones are then you don't know what he was talking about.
BTW, the Jesus character is not good role model. He is like an early trump. He wanted to be worshiped although he never did anything godly in scope. And, when he showed his apostles that he was just a hypocrite, they kicked him to the curb.
