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Adstar Wow ok lets do this dance.
Dance? No dance. You are telling me about what you believe and I'm reciprocating. Dalai Lama XIV wrote, In the Buddha's Words: An Anthology of Discourses from the Pali Canon: "The Buddha who stares back at us from the texts will be too much a reflection of ourselves, too little an image of the Enlightened One." I think that is true of religion as well as irreligion. After over a quarter of a century of these sorts of discussions I have learned that often, when you talk to religious or irreligious people it isn't about Jesus, God, Buddha, etc. ad infinitum, but rather, it is really about the person's manifestation of an ideological fixation. An emotional, sociopolitical and cultural knee jerk reaction to a personal world view. We make an idea a part of us and then must defend and propagate it as if it should be everyone's.
You appear to judge beyond the scope of your influence in Jesus' name.
Yes i am very sure of what i believe because God revealed Himself to me.
How so?
I know God exists and He is the God of Abraham.
That specific God told his people that for them, to call out his name was salvation. So, what was this God's name and salvation from what?
You need the atonement of the LORD Jesus because you have transgressed the will of God.
Seems extraordinarily ambiguous to me. Here's why:
You assume I or at least a collective "you" need the atonement in question. That isn't necessarily the case. For at least two reasons. Firstly, Jesus didn't come to convert unbelievers or save them. He originally came only for the believing Jews who were lost but when they rejected him the offer was extended to the gentile. That means the atonement you speak of isn't needed by anyone, and isn't wanted by many. Narrow is the gate. Most professed followers are disciples of a distorted idolatrous tradition based on ancient Greek philosophy and other extrabiblical pagan nonsense. The Cross from Constantine, trinity from Plato, immortal soul from Socrates, even lately evolution from Empedocles. Christmas from Saturnalia, Easter from Ishtar and the rapture from Darby. Hell from Milton and Dante.
Secondly, there is going to be a resurrection of the unrighteous as well as the righteous or wicked. (Acts 24:15; https://biblehub.com/acts/24-15.htm) Paul was referring to those people, all throughout time, who weren't introduced to God, his law and sin. Your self-righteous judgmental ideology doesn't encourage an accurate understanding of Jehovah God through the Bible. It only condemns "you."
You see that in your use of the term LORD. The term appears in Bible translations that allow for the scribal removal of God's name, Jehovah out of a superstitious fear the common man will profane it. The Generic Hebrew term adonay (https://biblehub.com/searchhebrew.php?q=adonay).
So, people who don't want God, the atonement, everlasting life don't need it and those who haven't been introduced to it don't need it either, demonstrably because they don't have it.
People need to be justly forgiven, if not then they have to pay the eternal penalty for their transgressions against the will of God.
Romans 6:7 (https://biblehub.com/romans/6-7.htm) reminds us that sin equals death. Not a literal eternal torment. The meek will inherit the earth and live forever upon it in peace. The others will suffer only eternal death or destruction.
Jesus atoned for transgressions by allowing Himself to be executed on a cross..thereby baying the death penalty for all sinners who believe Him and trust that His death on the cross paid the penalty for their transgressions..
Like I said. Dead. He can't have sacrificed himself temporarily. Jesus was a man. He died. Before he was born as a man in heaven he was, and remains, the archangel Michael. We remember his flesh, his blood.
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He didn't die on the cross. The Bible refers to the cross, first used by the pagan god Tammuz, aka, Nimrod, as a dungy idol. It's a phallic symbol detestable to Jews and Christians until introduced ~4 centuries after Christ by the sun worshipping Constantine.
All those who reject the atonement of the LORD Jesus shall pay the penalty for their own sins in the eternal lake of fire..
The lake of fire is symbolic of everlasting destruction. So, the second death. That of those aforementioned as the wicked resurrected. Having not been instructed or, as Paul said, mentored, by the law and sin, who then are judged by rejecting it after then being given that opportunity.
We believers and unbelievers have had that opportunity already so there is no "judgement day" for us. We've already judged ourselves. Believers by their actions [Eidt: AFTER] their having been introduced to it and unbelievers for having rejected it.
