Catholics are not Christians.
Strange as this may seem, Catholics live a different way of life guided by the Church. Christians follow or adhere to various forms of a monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the life of Jesus Christ.
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Greyjedi · M
That wasn’t his name. If what you say is true perhaps they are not “Christians” because they don’t use his actual name?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Greyjedi
This is a complex matter that depends on which perspective is in play. "Jesus Christ" is an English translation of the name of the central figure in Catholicism and Christianity.
Can you explain your perspective?
That wasn’t his name. If what you say is true perhaps they are not “Christians” because they don’t use his actual name?
This is a complex matter that depends on which perspective is in play. "Jesus Christ" is an English translation of the name of the central figure in Catholicism and Christianity.
Can you explain your perspective?
Greyjedi · M
@sree251 What Christians and Catholics do is laziness and cultural appropriation.
The man you call Jesus Christ has very little to do with the actual religions of which you speak. Both religions stole his identity to claim authority as the only valid religion. What the man actually taught was not religion but the evolution of kindness and the soul. The religions you speak of are about their own power and spreading fear and control. There is a New Testament passage that says the Apostles were the worst of the people he regularly taught, they were unable to free people from the possession of demons. He scolded them for this saying a child could do it. I don’t own a Bible currently but you can look up and you will see I’m telling the truth. And these people, the Apostles, are responsible for th creation “His” religion. They had no idea what he was about they didn’t respect him or understand him. If these religions as you say are centered around him, that is false. The reason these religions still exist is because the people, in them, are incapable of accepting cognitive dissonance.
The man you call Jesus Christ has very little to do with the actual religions of which you speak. Both religions stole his identity to claim authority as the only valid religion. What the man actually taught was not religion but the evolution of kindness and the soul. The religions you speak of are about their own power and spreading fear and control. There is a New Testament passage that says the Apostles were the worst of the people he regularly taught, they were unable to free people from the possession of demons. He scolded them for this saying a child could do it. I don’t own a Bible currently but you can look up and you will see I’m telling the truth. And these people, the Apostles, are responsible for th creation “His” religion. They had no idea what he was about they didn’t respect him or understand him. If these religions as you say are centered around him, that is false. The reason these religions still exist is because the people, in them, are incapable of accepting cognitive dissonance.
Greyjedi · M
@sree251 It is anglosized latin for his Yeshua. I only have a little bit of knowledge of hebrew so I don’t know what his other name(s) might be.
Jesus is an extremely sinister name as it means hail Zeus. Normally I don’t if someone is pagan but in mythology Zeus is the pinnacle of corruption and the only gods of Greek pantheon as bad or worse are his son Ares and father Cronos. Archaeologists have found evidence that Zeus had a death cult making him even worse.
Jesus is an extremely sinister name as it means hail Zeus. Normally I don’t if someone is pagan but in mythology Zeus is the pinnacle of corruption and the only gods of Greek pantheon as bad or worse are his son Ares and father Cronos. Archaeologists have found evidence that Zeus had a death cult making him even worse.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Greyjedi
You are correct. "Jesus Christ" is an English translation of Jewish scripture written by apostate Jews who broke away from Judaism. They believed that "Jesus Christ" was the Messiah prophesied in the Jewish Bible. The Jewish establishment of the day rejected that claim. Therefore, "Jesus Christ" has nothing to do with Judaism. Those apostate Jews went on to compile the Christian Bible using scripture of Judaism to form the Old Testament. Their split with Judaism is reflected in the New Testament written by apostate Jews to record their experiences and perceptions of "Jesus Christ" as the Messiah for all mankind and not just for Jews, the chosen people of Judaism. In my view, even though the Christian Bible, used by both Catholics and Christians, is different from the Hebrew Bible of Judaism, it is still a work of (apostate) Jews to create another Jewish religion with "Jesus Christ" as the Messiah.
Therefore, in my opinion, Christianity is a Jewish religion and much more so that Catholicism. The difference between the two is the emergence of a non-Jewish theology developed by the Catholic clergy who were, as you pointed out, inspired by what you said as quoted below:
Christians, who broke away from the Church, follow their own respective theologies which draw from the founding beliefs of Judaism.
I would appreciate your comments on my viewpoints.
It is anglosized latin for his Yeshua. I only have a little bit of knowledge of hebrew so I don’t know what his other name(s) might be.
You are correct. "Jesus Christ" is an English translation of Jewish scripture written by apostate Jews who broke away from Judaism. They believed that "Jesus Christ" was the Messiah prophesied in the Jewish Bible. The Jewish establishment of the day rejected that claim. Therefore, "Jesus Christ" has nothing to do with Judaism. Those apostate Jews went on to compile the Christian Bible using scripture of Judaism to form the Old Testament. Their split with Judaism is reflected in the New Testament written by apostate Jews to record their experiences and perceptions of "Jesus Christ" as the Messiah for all mankind and not just for Jews, the chosen people of Judaism. In my view, even though the Christian Bible, used by both Catholics and Christians, is different from the Hebrew Bible of Judaism, it is still a work of (apostate) Jews to create another Jewish religion with "Jesus Christ" as the Messiah.
Therefore, in my opinion, Christianity is a Jewish religion and much more so that Catholicism. The difference between the two is the emergence of a non-Jewish theology developed by the Catholic clergy who were, as you pointed out, inspired by what you said as quoted below:
@Greyjedi What the man actually taught was not religion but the evolution of kindness and the soul.
Christians, who broke away from the Church, follow their own respective theologies which draw from the founding beliefs of Judaism.
I would appreciate your comments on my viewpoints.
Greyjedi · M
@sree251 some say the hebrew people of Israel are not actually the “Jewish people” of the Bible but that the real people are in 🇪🇹. This is new to me but is similar to your statement about catholics and Christians.
I would argue that “The Church” broke away from the “Christians” and that both broke away from the teachings of Yeshua.
I would argue that “The Church” broke away from the “Christians” and that both broke away from the teachings of Yeshua.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Greyjedi
I have not researched the Hebrew language. The reason is that it is a controversial topic and all sources are unreliable and politically biased. As far as I am concerned, the "Jewish people" of the Bible have nothing to do with the present day Jews who are of two kinds: European Jews and Arab Jews. The latter are natives of the Middle East while the former have nothing to do with the story of Jesus.
How are Jews of Ethiopia similar to my statement about Catholics and Christians. Please clarify.
some say the hebrew people of Israel are not actually the “Jewish people” of the Bible but that the real people are in 🇪🇹. This is new to me but is similar to your statement about catholics and Christians.
I have not researched the Hebrew language. The reason is that it is a controversial topic and all sources are unreliable and politically biased. As far as I am concerned, the "Jewish people" of the Bible have nothing to do with the present day Jews who are of two kinds: European Jews and Arab Jews. The latter are natives of the Middle East while the former have nothing to do with the story of Jesus.
How are Jews of Ethiopia similar to my statement about Catholics and Christians. Please clarify.
Greyjedi · M
@sree251 well there is a mysterious building in which the custodians claim the Arc of the Covenant is housed and support this by the main custodian having cateracts or eye cancer which he said is brought on by beholding the Arc. Everyone who ever believed the Bible would say the Arc of the Covenant would be an object of great power
You say Catholics are not Christians, they have done their darnedest to be the most powerful and prestigious Church and the only. Perhaps the two “tribes” you have mentioned have done a same or similar thing to monopolize sympathy from Christians, Catholics and others. The way the Catholics claimed to be one true group connected to “Jesus Christ” in the early days.
You or someone else here said Noah had three sons what if he had a daughter or two and she moved to Africa and her descendants became Christians, Muslims and others, over the years.
Back to 🇪🇹 containing hebrews and Christians, there is evidence of dark African people invading 🇪🇬 in the past plus Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is rather close to 🇪🇬. Having left Ancient Egypt Hebrawic people could have gone up the Nile and its tributaries leading into Ethiopia. There is also the fact that there a history of horrible ethnic cleansings in Ethiopia not unlike the horrible treatment Jewish people have suffered in history.
You say Catholics are not Christians, they have done their darnedest to be the most powerful and prestigious Church and the only. Perhaps the two “tribes” you have mentioned have done a same or similar thing to monopolize sympathy from Christians, Catholics and others. The way the Catholics claimed to be one true group connected to “Jesus Christ” in the early days.
You or someone else here said Noah had three sons what if he had a daughter or two and she moved to Africa and her descendants became Christians, Muslims and others, over the years.
Back to 🇪🇹 containing hebrews and Christians, there is evidence of dark African people invading 🇪🇬 in the past plus Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is rather close to 🇪🇬. Having left Ancient Egypt Hebrawic people could have gone up the Nile and its tributaries leading into Ethiopia. There is also the fact that there a history of horrible ethnic cleansings in Ethiopia not unlike the horrible treatment Jewish people have suffered in history.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Greyjedi
European Jews claim they are suffering even now. I find this hard to believe because they are controlling power in western cultures. They are good at what the do and successful doing it. I am not aware of dark African Jews. If they exist,then they can't be good at what they do.
Back to 🇪🇹 containing hebrews and Christians, there is evidence of dark African people invading 🇪🇬 in the past plus Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is rather close to 🇪🇬. Having left Ancient Egypt Hebrawic people could have gone up the Nile and its tributaries leading into Ethiopia. There is also the fact that there a history of horrible ethnic cleansings in Ethiopia not unlike the horrible treatment Jewish people have suffered in history.
European Jews claim they are suffering even now. I find this hard to believe because they are controlling power in western cultures. They are good at what the do and successful doing it. I am not aware of dark African Jews. If they exist,then they can't be good at what they do.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Greyjedi
As I pointed out, I am a lapsed Catholic. I have no attachment to the faith and am making objective observation of the fundamental difference between the teaching of the Church and Christian doctrines in general. Also, as an organization, the Vatican is first among nation states in the secular world.
The two "tribes" you refer to are the European Jews and the Arab Jews. I am not aware of either tribe monopolizing sympathy from Christians. It is the Christians who feel beholden to Jews. The Catholics, not so much because their spiritual theology is not informed by Hebrew scripture. Christianity is founded on Jewish scripture, and the only element it has in common with Catholicism is Jesus Christ. Like Christians, Hindus also worship Jesus but their faith is based on the scripture of Hinduism.
You say Catholics are not Christians, they have done their darnedest to be the most powerful and prestigious Church and the only. Perhaps the two “tribes” you have mentioned have done a same or similar thing to monopolize sympathy from Christians, Catholics and others. The way the Catholics claimed to be one true group connected to “Jesus Christ” in the early days.
As I pointed out, I am a lapsed Catholic. I have no attachment to the faith and am making objective observation of the fundamental difference between the teaching of the Church and Christian doctrines in general. Also, as an organization, the Vatican is first among nation states in the secular world.
The two "tribes" you refer to are the European Jews and the Arab Jews. I am not aware of either tribe monopolizing sympathy from Christians. It is the Christians who feel beholden to Jews. The Catholics, not so much because their spiritual theology is not informed by Hebrew scripture. Christianity is founded on Jewish scripture, and the only element it has in common with Catholicism is Jesus Christ. Like Christians, Hindus also worship Jesus but their faith is based on the scripture of Hinduism.