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Once we are saved we can never lose our salvation. But half (5 out of 10) are not saved even though they call Jesus Lord.

"These are those who love me, those who keep my commandments" In the story of the 10 virgins, 5 had the door shut and could not enter the wedding supper even though they "loved" the Lord. But they did not really love the Lord because they were busy focusing on this life instead of preparing for heaven. They made excuses for their sins. And Jesus illustrate this further when he says "Many will preach in my name but on that day I will say to you "I never knew you" (These are pastors in churches preaching about Jesus but are not saved because they preach the wrong Jesus.In Matthew 24 Peter asks Jesus what are the signs of the end. Jesus says "Do not be deceived, because many will come in my name saying there he is" They preach another Jesus. One sign of the end generation is deceit.

Please ask God for wisdom! God says he will give us wisdom if we truly want it. Many people do not really want the truth. The Bible is not that difficult to understand. Don't twist scriptures. Jesus tells us that a child can come to Jesus. We have to repent our sins and follow Jesus. And the evidence of salvation is crucifying the flesh. We don't get divorced if we work on our marriage. We love people, even our enemies. We forgive everyone 70x7, we tithe and want the gospel to go out, we put our lives on the line at times to share our love for Jesus, If we don't live for Jesus then we are not saved.
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exchrist · 31-35
Ok so you've been saved and then start breaking the commandments are you sokehow not held to the standard that got you saved or is it that you get tenured and just do watever you want once you were saved that first time? u have a free ride from there on? Muder steal rape. Ud still be saved?
No.
@exchrist God's grace has nothing to do with our performance.
exchrist · 31-35
@ReflectionsInTime my point is an individual can lose their salvation. Per the logic i provided. If i 'find god' and start murdering ppl do i still have 'god's grace'
No
@exchrist Salvation is never based on performance. It is based on the work Christ did on the cross to pay for our sins and to keep us and he keeps us by the sealing of the Holy Spirit and the promises of God.

What person that is saved, would even want to go out and murder someone. People struggle enough to try to find the Lord and then to try and make them think they are in suspicious condemnation before Him, and constantly have to watch every little thing they do, or God will get mad and take their salvation away, is so sad. Grace is unearned favor from God. There's nothing we can do to earn it and grace says our salvation is not based on works. Read Ephesians 2:8-9. God's word says we are saved by grace through faith. Grace means that God loves, forgives, and saves us not because of who we are or what we do, but because of the work of Christ and his promise to save us and keep us. The thief on the cross had no works, yet God said you will be with me today in paradise. We sin every single day. Does God take our salvation away because of it? No way. That's why we have prayer, to humbly go to God and ask him to forgive us of our sins, which he is more than willing to do. If we could lose our salvation every time we sinned, then Christ would have to die on the cross every day to cover us! It doesn't work that way.
@exchrist Jesus said when we are saved, we are given eternal life. That means forever. That does not mean that God plans on going back on his word every time we mess up or that Christians take that as a sign that they have a license to sin, at all. That's the whole reason people follow Christ is because they're sorry for their sins, they repent and they want to turn away from their old life of sin, to a brand new life in Christ. They don't look at Salvation as a license to sin, but as an incentive to show their love for Christ by living a christ-like life. They strive to do better. And they received the Holy Spirit to help them do that. And the Bible says that there is no condemnation to those that love the Lord and live for him. God doesn't want us to live like that, under condemnation. The Bible says he didn't give us a spirit of fear but of love and a sound mind.
@exchrist The Bible never teaches that we can lose our salvation. People take God's word out of context to try to prove the opposite but they're wrong. Can you really feature God saying oh I came to save you once and for all by the power that is within me and by my shed blood to pay for your sins, and then he goes back on his word? No. Not going to happen in a million years. God's blood is powerful enough to keep us saved and so is his grace. God forgives. He doesn't hold grudges.
Carazaa · F
@exchrist No one who is truly born again ( Holy Spirit changed their heart completely) will live in sin, that is what Jesus means. All day long I want to make God happy because he saved me, and when we sin we grieve the Holy Spirit, so we never want to upset God once we are saved. But sadly about 50% of all who call Jesus Lord who think they are going to heaven wont because they are not really saved, they haven't been born again. There are a lot of Jesus cults out there. I know pastors who have sinned, molested married women, killed people, committed suicide, gone to prison, etc..and they sounded so Godly, but they were not christians at all. Most churches nowadays I think are apostate. This is what Jesus meant by Satan stands in the Holy place (besides The Dome of the Rock is now islam and another Jesus is preached there.
Carazaa · F
@ReflectionsInTime

"The sad thing is many "Christians" are not born again. Jesus says "Those who endure to the end will be saved"

And really pay attention to what Jesus says here below


Matthew 19
" Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first."
@Carazaa
But sadly about 50% of all who call Jesus Lord who think they are going to heaven wont because they are not really saved, they haven't been born again. There are a lot of Jesus cults out there. I know pastors who have sinned, molested married women, killed people, committed suicide, gone to prison, etc..and they sounded so Godly, but theywere notchristians at all.

It's not up to us to decide who was saved and who was not. Only Jesus knows their hearts. You don't know that 50% of all who call Jesus Lord who think they are going to heaven, won't. That's not up to us to judge that. Jesus knows who is saved and who is not. Let's leave that up to him, but when you say this, you contridict yourself:

You said: We can not earn our salvation. God chooses who he saves and our faith is also works. We can not choose to have faith, because Jesus is clear that we are DEAD i our sins.

Of course we can't earn our salvation, but your teachings are dangerous because you take a scripture here and there, then mix it and make it twist to match and read the way you want it to read. Of course, we can't earn our salvation by works, but then you go to say that only those God chooses, is saved, but that's not what John 3:16 Says. John 3:16 says that whosoever comes to Jesus and wants to be saved, can! He doesn't rule out anybody nor turn them away. There's always room at the cross for one more. John 3:16 shows full well that people choose to come to Jesus and he promises to save them. Salvation is a choice! You're preaching predestination and you have taken that verse out of context. You can quote scripture all day long but when you mix it up to make it read the way you want it to, it will never work.

And the scriptures you quoted to me about good works only, proves that you still think you can only get to Heaven by good works, and that is not what the Bible says.
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