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@Musicman I don't know anyone who died from covid. I kept hearing about the many deaths and how the hospitals were over run but I saw no evidence of what was said. I decided not to get the shot and kept my head down refusing to wear a mask and not staying home during the lockdowns. Maybe I am a bit of a contrarian I don't know but I do know that when the jabs first were administered all the people I knew who got them had some sort of adverse reaction. A friend of mine pushed her way to the front of the line. The next day she had a nasty case of shingles. Her husband went with her and in short order he had a nonfatal heart attack. My brother in law got jabbed and three days later was dead from blood clots in his lungs. He was the picture of health prior. A neighbor got his shot to work in an old folks home. His wife woke up with a dead body in their bed. His heart suddenly stopped beating the night after he had been jabbed. So much evidence against the jab and none in favor of it. About the time my brother in law died I began actively warning people not to get jabbed. Some listened and others ignored. Those who ignored have all had some sort of adverse reaction even as the death toll in my circle of friends and acquaintances increases. So very sad for those who unwittingly were duped into taking the poison.

@Musicman Funny thing nobody was dying from influenza during the Covid panic. How could the flu just disappear and let Covid takeover like that? And then afterward the flu returned. Just like that.

@cherokeepatti Speaking of flu it was my experience watching the results of the flu vax that convinced me to resist getting the covid jab. It has been evident for years that the flu vax doesn't actually work and the pro vax crowd have lowered the expectation from prevention to lessening the symptoms. Lessening the symptoms? How can you quantify that since each person reacts differently to each individual strain of flu. Having recognized the lie the first time I am not about to fall for it the second time.

@Musicman I don't know a single person who died from Covid. I know plenty who got it....none that died. Not saying it didn't kill people...just none I know.

@SamInAZ I know two people that died from it.

@cherokeepatti Influenza is an infectious disease that spreads when people are in close contact. The public health measures that were instituted to control the spread of COVID were also effective at reducing the spread of influenza and other infections.

@ninalanyon yes, but there were massive societal and health consequences as well

Not to mention that flu rebounded when the restrictions were lifted

@Activitykittens I think that depends very much on where in the world you were. The UK had it especially bad with lockdowns, lost school time, etc. While here in Norway we had no lockdowns and schools simply arranged for class sizes to be halved, and hence allow for greater distance between students in the class room, by having children work at home every second day.

The excess death rate during the pandemic in Norway was negative yet we never had a lockdown just bans on large gatherings and restriction on the number of people you could invite into your home at one time. I continued to visit cafés and shops throughout the time but hair dressers, nail bars, physiotherapists, and similar hands on jobs had to shut down for a couple of months.

@ninalanyon sounds like heaven 😭

@Activitykittens A lockdown can't happen in Norway because freedom of movement is a constitutional right and the last time it was infringed was during the war when Norway was occupied. A couple of MPs did suggest an amendment but they didn't get any support.

But Norway is a high trust society, we trust the government to have our best interests at heart and leave epidemiological decisions to those trained in the subject (mostly) and the government trusts us to behave well (also mostly). In the UK where solidarity is a dirty word and no one trusted Boris and his cronies as far as they could be thrown it was all very different.