God created the uninverse.

By God I mean "the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."

And by universe I mean the composite collection of parts and bits creaded by God, of which humans are one such parts and bits, and thus humans are evidence to the existence of God.

Okay, I will start saying that there has always been existence instead of non-existence, and this existence is God.

Hi everyone here, do you agree with me that there has always been existence, or you hold that there was never any existence, then from nothingness somethingness just sprang forth into existence?

I thin if you hold that position, you are absurd, period.

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yrger · 80-89, M

Hi DocSavage, you are not logical but psychological.

Logically there is always even before man appeared, the existence that is God, the permanent and self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.

Your attitude which is psychological is one of acquired hatred against God, go and see a psychiatrist.

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DocSavage · M
By God I mean "the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."

As I stated once before. Your opinion of a god is far too human to be practical. It still holds to the idea that the universe was created for a purpose, by an intelligent, self aware being with magical powers, and with an agenda in which our “souls” have some kind of value. Henceforth your upgrade to a “spirit” creator.
You have a universe, but it doesn’t need an intent , nor does it need a permanent creator to watch over it. The concept of both, is purely a human invention. With no evidence to support it. Our knowledge of it is far to limited for such a conclusion.

DocSavage · M

@yrger

Your attitude which is psychological is one of acquired hatred against God, go and see a psychiatrist.

Bollocks
And how very christian of you. We don’t agree, so we must hate god. You don’t even have an original argument. Just more of the same old bullshit.
Obviously a psychiatrist didn’t do you any good, perhaps you should go with that full frontal lobotomy after all. It’s not like you have any personality left to lose.

And for the record. I don’t hate god, I don’t believe in it. I just think your definition of god is, (in the words of the late, great Vernon Dent) “ Completely illogical, preponderantly impractical
And moreover it stinks “