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God created the uninverse.

By God I mean "the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."

And by universe I mean the composite collection of parts and bits creaded by God, of which humans are one such parts and bits, and thus humans are evidence to the existence of God.


Okay, I will start saying that there has always been existence instead of non-existence, and this existence is God.


Hi everyone here, do you agree with me that there has always been existence, or you hold that there was never any existence, then from nothingness somethingness just sprang forth into existence?

I thin if you hold that position, you are absurd, period.
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There has always been God/existance. The 'accidental' big bang theory is a stupid theory without an intelligent creator guiding creation. My husband has been creating a big bang in his garage, things accidentally colliding and making a massive mess rarely result in beauty and order without a guiding hand. I doubt the garage will change into beauty and order unless at some point he decides to order it through intelligent design. 🤷‍♀️
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@SW-User the big bang theory doesn't exclude an intelligent creator
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@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP I agree, I said 'without an intelligent creator guiding creation'.
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Funlov · M
@Funlov lol
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ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@SW-User
a massive mess rarely result in beauty and order
Sounds like a fair description of most of the universe.
@SW-User The Universe is one beautiful mess. There is beauty in chaos.
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@Emosaur how isn’t there any order?
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@Emosaur I have no problem with physics but who or what makes those rules? I also have no problem with matter colliding but where did that matter come from? Those are questions that science has always failed to answer.
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@SW-User Emosaur is a turd in a wig.

The end.
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@SW-User The truth will always be the truth no matter how much you question it.
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@Emosaur I have no problem with physics but who or what makes those rules? Or a big bang, matter colliding etc but where did that matter come from in order for it to collide in the first place? Those are questions that science has always failed to answer. Answer that satisfactorily and I might become an atheist.
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@Emosaur so basically, neither you nor science can answer my question accept to acknowledge that
there was never truly "nothing"; even empty space is "something", and it's where the dominant power of the universe lies.

So where would this "dominant power" come from then if God cannot possibly exist?
You think that belief in the existence of God is irrational because you can only accept him from a human and natural perspective and not a supernatural perspective. You judge him on your own limitations.
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@Emosaur I would most likely complain to them lol. I often don't see eye to eye with many people who claim to be Christian, theology is vastly differing between Christians and I agree they are often the most irritating people on the planet.
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@Emosaur me personally? I started going to church - actually not for spiritual reasons, I was, I guess switching between atheist/agnostic at the time. I needed somewhere warm to go with my noisy children as my husband was working nights and needed to sleep. Church was warm, gave me a break and offered free childcare in the form of Sunday school. I wasn't expecting to actually meet God but I did. The rest is history.
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@Emosaur I don't know. What they think is irrelevant to my situation
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@Emosaur Firstly there's a lot of historical evidence and archeological evidence for Christianity.
I think more so than the other religions although I am not a historian and I haven't deeply checked that out. Secondly logic and the nature of who God is has to stand as evidence. If all religions say that humans sin and all religions say their god is loving then you have to question how love would be demonstrated and how the problem of sin is addressed. I think it would be logical that a God who claims to be loving would have a cure for sin. Christianity is the only religion where God actually addresses sin himself. Other religions tell the believer to work towards gaining a place in heaven and they are never given the assurance that they will ever reach heaven or that their sins will ever be forgiven.