My latest definition of God.

This is an invitation to every human to criticize my latest defintion of God, namely:

"God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."

yrger · 80-89, M

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yrger · 80-89, M

Hi newjaninev2, the universe needed to be created because it has a beginning, but "God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."

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newjaninev2 says:

self-existent

By this I assume you mean that your god did not need to be created.

If that claim is in any way valid then it is equally valid to say that the universe did not need to be created... thereby removing any need to even postulate the existence of your god.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@yrger I want you to concentrate... really. really. concentrate.

You said:

the universe has a beginning

and I replied:

The universe began expanding 13.7 billion years ago... an event which permitted spacetime. It is therefore meaningless to talk about ‘before’ that event, or to surmise anything about the universe as a singularity.

It is certainly meaningless to say that the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe.

and your sole response to that was:

The universe needed to be created because it has a beginning

when I’ve just shown you that it didn’t have a beginning

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@yrger I also asked you about your term ’self-existent’

I said: By this I assume you mean that your god did not need to be created.

If that claim is in any way valid then it is equally valid to say that the universe did not need to be created... thereby removing any need to even postulate the existence of your god.

You did not respond to this.

Instead, you merely copied my comment

Perhaps you’d like to respond now?