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Entwistle · 56-60, M
Why has he let billions of people down the ages suffer and die rather than just forgive Adam and Eve?
Why did he create them knowing full well that they would sin before he even created them?
Why did he create them knowing full well that they would sin before he even created them?
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Entwistle Pretty much. It's like, "Oh well, the first two humans blew it, I better condemn the rest of humanity for ages to come.
Maybe this "God" enjoys sending people to hell?
I remember when I was a kid and reading one of those "hellfire and damnation" pamphlets. It said Adam and Even sinned and that this sin has been passed down to you and me.
I was thinking, "So 1,000's of years ago some two people screwed up and the rest of us get to be punished?"
Maybe this "God" enjoys sending people to hell?
I remember when I was a kid and reading one of those "hellfire and damnation" pamphlets. It said Adam and Even sinned and that this sin has been passed down to you and me.
I was thinking, "So 1,000's of years ago some two people screwed up and the rest of us get to be punished?"
BibleData · M
@CestManan The Bible doesn't teach hell. That's a pagan myth adopted later by apostate religion.
We aren't being punished for Adam's sin, we inherited it. It's environmental. Like a kid who's father commits a crime and goes to prison. The kid isn't being punished but his environment, his life suffers because of it.
We aren't being punished for Adam's sin, we inherited it. It's environmental. Like a kid who's father commits a crime and goes to prison. The kid isn't being punished but his environment, his life suffers because of it.
BibleData · M
@Entwistle [quote] The kid in your analogy may have a better life without it's criminal father.[/quote]
Its subjective, though, isn't it. A televangelist's kid may have a "better" life because of sin. The kid's life may have been better because of the crimes his father was committing. His life may have been better with his father in prison. It depends upon the situation.
Its subjective, though, isn't it. A televangelist's kid may have a "better" life because of sin. The kid's life may have been better because of the crimes his father was committing. His life may have been better with his father in prison. It depends upon the situation.
BibleData · M
@Entwistle [quote]So god is fallible then?[/quote]
That's an interesting question. If you define fallible as capable of making mistakes or errors then who is going to be the judge of that? I've heard atheists say life as we know it, if created by God, was a mistake because they think life as we know it is what he intended. He regretted the flood of Noah's day.
God's inspired word, as given to the prophets, was infallible, but the translation of the Bible as we know it wasn't inspired so it isn't infallible.
The point with omniscience is that it is a religious or theological exaggeration of the truth. Most of modern day Christian and Jewish tradition is pagan nonsense adopted by apostate religion. The immortal soul, hell, all good people go to heaven, the cross, trinity, rapture, Christmas and Easter, as well as omnipotence, omnipresence and omnibenevolence is all silly nonsense not supported by the Bible.
That's an interesting question. If you define fallible as capable of making mistakes or errors then who is going to be the judge of that? I've heard atheists say life as we know it, if created by God, was a mistake because they think life as we know it is what he intended. He regretted the flood of Noah's day.
God's inspired word, as given to the prophets, was infallible, but the translation of the Bible as we know it wasn't inspired so it isn't infallible.
The point with omniscience is that it is a religious or theological exaggeration of the truth. Most of modern day Christian and Jewish tradition is pagan nonsense adopted by apostate religion. The immortal soul, hell, all good people go to heaven, the cross, trinity, rapture, Christmas and Easter, as well as omnipotence, omnipresence and omnibenevolence is all silly nonsense not supported by the Bible.