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Christians who believe that Jesus is returning very soon...how much time would have to pass before you would be surprised that Jesus hasn't returned?

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Mathers · 61-69
“Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.””
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭NLT‬‬
“But you must not forget this one thing, dear friends: A day is like a thousand years to the Lord, and a thousand years is like a day. The Lord isn’t really being slow about his promise, as some people think. No, he is being patient for your sake. He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants everyone to repent. But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭8‬-‭10‬ ‭NLT‬‬
God is still building his kingdom on earth. He’s only been there two days in his reckoning so give him a chance
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Mathers When you are selling bullshit, then the idea that "scoffers will come" at some point is a self furfilling prophecy. It's a pretty good tactic to defend yourself from any criticism without ever having to deal with it.

Mathers · 61-69
Well you should know all about selling BS. Peopke like you are experts! 😃@Kwek00
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Mathers BS, doesn't mean: "things you don't like". 😅
Mathers · 61-69
No things that are beyond your tiny brain@Kwek00
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Mathers Believing in things that you can't proof are real, has nothing to do with having a bigger brain then other people. But I guess thinking the opposite makes you feel really good about yourself.
Mathers · 61-69
Not having a bigger brain. Just an open mind to the possibility there are more things to than the material and that there are better ways to be fully human @Kwek00
walabby · 61-69, M
@Kwek00 The fact that the text was preloaded with "scoffers will come" suggests that that whole thing was known bullshit from the getgo...
Mathers · 61-69
Or that the author knew peopke like you would come along! 😂😂😂@walabby
walabby · 61-69, M
@Mathers I still can't get past the words of the Lord that says that some of the people that he is talking to will still be alive when he returns. There must be some VERY old people still wandering around Jerusalem these days....
Mathers · 61-69
You are misinterpreting the passage as many have done. The passage is a reference to Daniel 7 where Christ would take up his position of authority in the New Kingdom after his resurrection and ascension. He refers to this to the High Priest in Mark 14:62. He is not referring to his Second Coming - the word Parousia is not mentioned - but rather the time when he would ‘enter his glory’ and would be seated at God’s right hand. Unfortunately you have been on the end of a wrong interpretation of Mk 13:30. Hope this helps. @walabby
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Mathers
[quote][...] [b]Just an open mind to the possibility[/b] there are more things to than the material and that there are better ways to be fully human @Kwek00[/quote]

Having an open mind for possibilities that might be there is great. Now do the leggwork and proof that those possibilities are not just possible but objectively verifable.

Just accepting those possibilities as if they are true without doing the leggwork agrees with the first part of your message:

[quote]Not having a bigger brain. [...][/quote]

Considering what written so far, I dare to say without having to brag, that you deff. don't have the bigger brain at this moment in time on this particulair toppic.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@walabby That was my point... as I said:

[quote]When you are selling bullshit, then the idea that "scoffers will come" at some point is a self furfilling prophecy. [...][/quote]
Mathers · 61-69
I might not have a bigger brain but it is perhaps because I do understand more. Ever heard the saying that the man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with argument? @Kwek00
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Mathers Considering that saying was used by an equally delusional figure [i](Leonard Ravenhill)[/i] that was unable to make his case, ... it doesn't come over as very impressive.