Is The End Time Tribulation Judgement?
If so why would God judge his children? Some say the body of Christ will be here to face the anti Christ.
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I think the end time tribulation is a form of judgment, but it's not the ultimate judgement. Jesus says in Matt. 24 it will be cut short for the sake of the elect. It will be a time of horrible distress. Some Christians believe all of the saints will be taken up with Christ in the Rapture prior to the Great Tribulation. However, Jesus indicates in Matt 24 that at least some of his people will be here when the tribulation commences. We have to believe God's judgment is righteous. For centuries, Christians have begged and pleaded with the world to accept Christ and many have laughed, scorn us and continue to engage in evil. Billions of Christians have already suffered from tribulation or currently suffering because we choose to preach the truth and expose the evils of the world - things like homosexuality, abortions, sexual immorality, greed, etc. We say that we are God's children but Jesus said to the Pharisees, "you are of your father, the devil." We are all God's children but some of us have chosen to become workers of mischief and evil.
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@RocktheHouse The evils of this world... homosexuality 😂 Can't make this shit up you religious people are hilariously insane
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M
@SW-User remids me of this line from Nietzsche : "remain faithful to the earth, and do not believe those who speak to you of otherworldly hopes! Poison-mixers are they, whether they know it or not. Despisers of life are they, decaying and poisoned themselves, of whom the earth is weary: so let them go."
reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M
because its the type of god he is: needs to be worshiped, known to turn into a mass murderer when things don't go his way(destroyed the whole world with a flood, destroyed Sodom and Ghamorah) , tortured Job just to make a point, requires blood sacrifices to forgive transgression, and the list goes on. even the worst human in history has not commited so many attrocities.
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basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M
@karysma imagine a politician would come along and say something like "choose life or choose dead" , he would be perceived as a tyrant dictator. any human leader who would act like the god of the bible would be perceived as the most evil leader in the history of mankind
reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M
@karysma we humans make our own laws and the more we seperate religion from the justice system and the more our laws evolve because our laws don't pretend to be some absolute unchangeable truth, our laws can be discussed and debated. god didn't end slavery and give women the right to vote, us humans talking with each other did that.
RocktheHouse · M
@reflectingmonkey [quote]god didn't end slavery and give women the right to vote[/quote]
You're half correct. God didn't give women the right to vote. Women shouldn't vote , but he played a part in ending slavery. Most of the abolitionists were Christian. And we can't forget about the Quakers for their contribution in the underground railroad and helping to end slavery.
You're half correct. God didn't give women the right to vote. Women shouldn't vote , but he played a part in ending slavery. Most of the abolitionists were Christian. And we can't forget about the Quakers for their contribution in the underground railroad and helping to end slavery.
reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M
@RocktheHouse slavery was approved by the church. back then pretty much everyone in america were christian, as much the abolitionists as the slave owners, so saying christianity helped stop slavery makes no sense at all and saying women shouldn,t vote, well, that's just ancient, outdated, primitive thinking, suported by the bible.
NoGamesTolerated · F
NoGamesTolerated · F
@NoGamesTolerated It seems I was in such a hurry, I misread your question. Yes, it is very much judgement on a wicked world collectively but it is not judgement of individuals. It is also called a “time of Jacob’s trouble” where the Antichrist himself will make a treaty with Israel and then break it. He will then turn on Israel with great fury…
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Incomplet · 18-21
Everyon keeps trying to plac [b]Human Attributes[/b] upon GOD!
As if HE is Angry, Vengeful, a Destroyer, Judging, Needs and Requires Worship, Makes Demands, Kills in Glorious Retribution and all sorts of things that Match the Definition of an EVIL VILLIAN in a Marvel Super Hero!
That kind of "GOD" is a sad and Make-believ "Creation of MAN".
"GOD" in th BIBLE in a "Creation of MAN" used By Smarter & Powerful Leaders as a way of being reassuring, to explain mysteries, to hold & keep power over masses of uninformed supersticious ancient humans.
God's and Dieties from th beginning of Humanity hav been Used & Wielded for Power by Shamen, Witch Doctors, Priests, Acolytes, Monks controlling access to God's favor, blessings and heavenly rewards.
The GOD Creator of the Universe(s) Is Infinitely Beyond anything Humanity's conceptual ability that it is both ludicrous and pathetic!
As if HE is Angry, Vengeful, a Destroyer, Judging, Needs and Requires Worship, Makes Demands, Kills in Glorious Retribution and all sorts of things that Match the Definition of an EVIL VILLIAN in a Marvel Super Hero!
That kind of "GOD" is a sad and Make-believ "Creation of MAN".
"GOD" in th BIBLE in a "Creation of MAN" used By Smarter & Powerful Leaders as a way of being reassuring, to explain mysteries, to hold & keep power over masses of uninformed supersticious ancient humans.
God's and Dieties from th beginning of Humanity hav been Used & Wielded for Power by Shamen, Witch Doctors, Priests, Acolytes, Monks controlling access to God's favor, blessings and heavenly rewards.
The GOD Creator of the Universe(s) Is Infinitely Beyond anything Humanity's conceptual ability that it is both ludicrous and pathetic!
NerdyPotato · M
@Incomplet that's so easy though, and raises more questions than it answers. Why didn't he make us smart enough to understand a little of why it's good that he does everything he forbids us? Why did he make us able to see and question that contradiction? Why did he make us crave things and able to do feel/do things he doesn't want to do?
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NerdyPotato · M
@Incomplet ah, that makes sense. I guess the misunderstanding was that I just call that nature rather than a god. But a system without purpose or goal is exactly what I see around me and that I do believe.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
I think we are in a Great Tribulation of sorts, and in the latter days, relative to The Lord.
But only the Father knows The End, and large stretches of time to us are nothing to Him.
Only He knows the Final Hour of Judgement Day/Armageddon.
Mans system is disintegrating. We are on the brink of several catastrophes that are since unprecedented in mans history.
We must be Judged because children do not generally get a free pass or free ticket to ride everywhere they go. Neither above nor bellow.
When Christ comes, I do not know. But I hope he brings a Sword to cut the World down to size. We've really earned it.
But only the Father knows The End, and large stretches of time to us are nothing to Him.
Only He knows the Final Hour of Judgement Day/Armageddon.
Mans system is disintegrating. We are on the brink of several catastrophes that are since unprecedented in mans history.
We must be Judged because children do not generally get a free pass or free ticket to ride everywhere they go. Neither above nor bellow.
When Christ comes, I do not know. But I hope he brings a Sword to cut the World down to size. We've really earned it.
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NerdyPotato · M
Judging your children sounds extremely toxic, doesn't it? But that makes it well in line with most of what he does and demands.
RocktheHouse · M
@karysma Matt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
I guess the question is who should you believe, St. Paul or Jesus Christ?
I guess the question is who should you believe, St. Paul or Jesus Christ?
RocktheHouse · M
@karysma Paul also said, "A person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law," and "For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God" (Rom 3:28 & Rom. 4:2).
St. James says, "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone" (James 2:24).
This is a blatant contradiction.
St. James says, "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone" (James 2:24).
This is a blatant contradiction.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Why wouldn't He? Do you think He expects mediocrity?
Soft bogotry of low expectations for humanity?
Also, Elon Musk, Trump, Hillary Clinton and Zuck the Cuck havent fused into a reptillian transformer of pure unmittigated evil yet, so we are not out of the woods yet, by Golly!
Till then... you ain't seen nothing yet!
Soft bogotry of low expectations for humanity?
Also, Elon Musk, Trump, Hillary Clinton and Zuck the Cuck havent fused into a reptillian transformer of pure unmittigated evil yet, so we are not out of the woods yet, by Golly!
Till then... you ain't seen nothing yet!
Adstar · 56-60, M
Tribulkation means suffering troubles...
True followers of Jesus will be persecuted by anti-christs in the end times..
This is tribulation for us..
Then::
The LORD shall return to earth and will destroy the anti-christs who persecuted His followers.. This is tribulation for them..
True followers of Jesus will be persecuted by anti-christs in the end times..
This is tribulation for us..
Then::
The LORD shall return to earth and will destroy the anti-christs who persecuted His followers.. This is tribulation for them..
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