Is your God your color?

@Adstar huh?

@MasterLee Read it again... This time slowly.. It says everything clearly..

@Adstar so asking questions is racist. Doesn't get much slower than that.

@MasterLee Try and read what i wrote.. I said [quote]or think [c=7700B2]it is an important issue[/c] what color God is[/quote]

Maybe English is not your first language ?

@Adstar you made it an issue not me. Myths don't have a color.

@MasterLee I never made the color of God an issue.. I was responding to someone who made it an issue to tell them that making it an issue reflects badly upon them.. Follow the flow of the discussion, you're starting to look dumb man..

@Adstar you are my mentor then

@Adstar Who is your God?

Are you saying you do not have a racist part in you?

If so, I can prove you wrong if you accept fellowship as an synonym to racism. tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

@Adstar Badly on me? No.

I see it as badly on those who do not step up to being their own best God.

See the Gnostic Christian way, and know that we are universalists and cannot by design discriminate unjustly.

Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw

Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU


The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

Gnosis enlightens adults.

Regards
DL

@GnosticChristian You are in a false religion.. You are not God.. You never where a God and you never will be a God... Satans first deception / enticement was to tell our first ancestors that if they took the knowledge of good and evil they would become gods this lead to their deaths.. satan himself claimed that he could be a God equal to the LORD but he will face the second death in the eternal lake of fire.. gnosticism is deception and those God gives over to delusion will fall for a deception, in your case it is gnosticism..

@Adstar Yes, but those would be lying about God.

Regards
DL

@Adstar Look this up.

Jesus askes in the bible, have ye forgotten that yee are Gods?

What is your answer?

Never mind, as you have given up your autonomy for a fantasy.

Why?

Jesus cannot die for you. Right?

He taught what follows.

On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.

To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.

Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:

There is no way that Christians would teach their children to use a scapegoat to escape their just punishments and here you are promoting doing just that.
Jesus is just a smidge less immoral than his demiurge genocidal father, and here you are trying to put him as low in moral fiber as Yahweh. Tsk tsk.

Regards
DL

@GnosticChristian
[quote] Jesus cannot die for you. Right?

He taught what follows.

On Jesus dying for Christians. Try to think in a moral way.

It takes quite an inflated ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.

Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.

It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.[/quote]

(Proverbs 14:12) "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

Yes there is a way that seems right unto a man.. The way where men face the consequences for their own sins and take whats comming to them.. Thats the way men think is right but it is the way that leads to death... Their eternal second death..

Yes you thinketh like a man and you declare the Way of salvation a stumblingblock..

(1 Corinthians 1:23-25) "But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; {24} But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. {25} Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men."

Indeed if the way was the ""moral"" way you declare then no one would be saved all our sins would indeed see us cast into the eternal lake of fire ..

(Deuteronomy 27:26) "Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen."

Everyone under the Law is cursed by the Law because everyone breaks the law.. They fail to do them..

But God created the Way by His atonement that the LORD secured on the cross.. You call it a stumblingblock while others call is foolishness, but to those being saved it is the awesome loving power of God.. 🤗

@Adstar Awesome loving power in a genocidal, homophobic and misogynous God.

You know nothing of love, given that you can't admit that using a messiah is a moral cowards way.

Best to ignore me as I do not like immoral people.

You hide behind a fantasy, " Their eternal second death".

Shame on you.

Regards
DL

@GnosticChristian You cannot shame me for accepting the truth.. I hope you regret Your attacks upon the God of Abraham while you are still alive.. Or you surely will after you pass into eternity..

@Adstar They abused you when young. Sympathies.

To fear an unproven supernatural realm that has you loving a genocidal, homophobic and misogynous God is not too fucking bright.

Your kind of immoral a hole was not common before your turned.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D

Regards
DL

@GnosticChristian [quote]@Adstar They abused you when young. Sympathies.

To fear an unproven supernatural realm that has you loving a genocidal, homophobic and misogynous God is not too fucking bright. [/quote]

Stop projecting... I became a Christian when i was in my early 20's... I never experienced any fire and brimstone type fear preaching in my childhood.. A friend at work gave me a Bible to read when i was 21 and i read it all.. That's why i became a Christian..

[quote]Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."[/quote]

The Jews interpretation of Torah caused them to fail to acknowledge their Messiah Jesus when he came.. So why would anyone place Jewish theologians in a place of authority when Jewish theology lead them to disaster. Both spiritual disaster and physical disaster.. We can see what has happened to the Jewish people over the last 2000 years because the protection and blessings of YAVEH where removed from them when they rejected their Messiah Jesus..

[quote]"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning." [/quote]

If He inspired you to be a gnostic then his teachings are deception designed to mislead the delusional..

@Adstar I think it is those like you, who adore an evil god, while calling him good, that need help with delusions.

My focus is morals and I chose my religion on those.

If you care about your moral soul above the belief in fantasy characters, you will reject your evil Yahweh/Jesus combo.

If you want to discuss morals, I am here.

If you want to retain your demonstrably evil invisible friend, goodbuy.

Regards
DL

@GnosticChristian [quote]@Adstar I think it is those like you, who adore an evil god, while calling him good, that need help with delusions.[/quote]

I think about you in a similar way except you do not believe in a god at all you have been decieved by the satanic deception that you can be a god or are a god.. satans is not very creative in his deception the same spool he delivered to Eve is the one he has delivered to you.. She fell for it and so have you..

[quote]My focus is morals and I chose my religion on those.[/quote]

Your morals are not moral.. They are twisted..

[quote]If you care about your moral soul above the belief in fantasy characters, you will reject your evil Yahweh/Jesus combo[/quote]

If you care about your moral soul above the belief in gnostisim, you will reject your fallen angel satan..

[quote]If you want to discuss morals, I am here.[/quote]

We already have discussed it and you have revealed your morals are faulty in the extreme..

[quote]If you want to retain your demonstrably evil invisible friend, goodbuy.[/quote]

If you want to retain your demonstrably evil invisible friend, goodbuy

@Adstar Can't argue for the prick you follow.

Let me know if morals ever enter your homophobic and misogynous thinking.

Regards
DL

@GnosticChristian Not hanging out at Political Hotwire any more?

@TheSentinel On occasion.

They have been quiet of late.

Regards
DL