Isn't this what the Christian Nationalist/Trumpists want?

It's a nice piece and I agree with the sentiment, because it scares the crap out of me, too.

But at the same stuff, seeing stuff like this bothers me, because it seems to feed right into the, "if you don't like it, leave" mentality.

I feel like I should pack my bag, just in case, but damned if I want to. I was born here, raised and educated on the idea that this country was not just another Christian Nation with the idea that it was founded on "liberal ideas," including separation of Church and State, meaning more than just the Establishment Clause.

I'm not stupid. I realize that it was never that simple, but Trump and then 1/6 and the reaction to it made me realize, maybe I have less in common with more Americans than I thought I did.

I'm not giving up yet, but the definition of "civil discourse" is weighing a lot more heavily on me, along with more basic differences in terms of how one person treats another.

Did Jesus just over simplify, or did he mean to say, if you follow me and those who claim to support my message, you can ignore the older stuff ?

I'd like to think Christianity isn't a farce, but it sure seems like this crap is being carried out in it's name and there isn't much (enough) resistance.

Opinion: As a Jewish American, I don't see this country quite the same way after January 6

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/25/opinions/jews-racism-january-6-committee-wolfson/index.html

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

The new right is a global thing. I've just been reading that a woman who is a literal fascist is favourite to be Italy's new leader.

'Godwin's law check?'

As a mayor, she had a square renamed after one of Mussolini's ministers.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Burnley123

I've just been reading that a woman who is a literal fascist is favourite to be Italy's new leader.

Keep in mind she's been the only opposition to the recent widest majority I could remember of. That alone would make even a literal clown the favourite candidate, Italy is a country that is founded on opposing whoever was governing for last.

Anyway, yeah, the situation is rather bleak still.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Elessar The literal clowns? Do you mean the 5 star movement? 😇

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Burnley123 Yes, and that's exactly how they got their 30%+ in 2018 🥴

I wonder if they'll be able to stay above Renzi now 🤔

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Elessar Say something about the right: they at least have a somewhat coherent ideology. Five star make not understanding politics into a virtue and look where that gets you!

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Elessar Exactly. It's such a shame that they have galvanised resistance against the system for nothing!

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Burnley123 Well in their eyes they haven't, whoever represented the system changed over time and so they've adapted. 😆 It's really that Italy is a country that is founded on opposing whoever was governing for last, or at the very least their electorate:

When the system was Berlusconi / Monti / Letta, they allied with Salvini to counter it. They've successfully managed to become the main party of a governing coalition and at that point it was Salvini the system that needed to be countered, so they've realigned themselves with the Dems (okay Salvini had his own share of fault in this, as it was him leaving the League-5S coalition, but they were striding and sooner than later it would've happened regardless, he just gave them a chance). Part of the 5S turned against their own party as well, either because they couldn't accept they had become the system and had this urge to attack themselves (Di Battista et al), or because even if "the concept of left and right is no longer relevant", switching from being the legs of an ultranationalist government to suddenly becoming an extension of the Dems must've been difficult to digest (Paragone)

Basically, they have the numbers they have because Italians don't know what they want but they sure like whoever makes for a loud opposition. This gets you elected, sure, but you can't be a credible loud opposition anymore once you're part of a government, and that's why they're plummeting in the polls (along with the League, no matter how far Salvini went recently to act like an opposition member while being himself in the Draghi coalition). I think Meloni current projections, similarly, are indeed that high simply and solely because she's essentially been the only (perceived) anyi-system loud opposition lately, but she's not immune to these dynamics either (unless they'll pull a Jan 6th here too, and manage to lock themselves in power, idk)