Teacher talks about the effect Andrew Tate has on 11 year old boys.

@SW-User I'm talking about kids development and what they're allowed to listen to. Assuming they'll hear it from someone else is a stretch. Tate is to blame.

@SatanBurger There are far more detrimental issues causing inceldom than Tates clips. Pornography and fatherlessness are just 2. Tate is the last thing kids need to be concerned about

@SW-User Okay so can you tell me the 11 year old boy in question who directly stated Tate was his hero and then telling an 11 year old girl that he works hard for his money, she's fat and all the things a 40 year old incel would say is due to being fatherless and watching porn all the time? Even though you couldn't possibly know that.

@SatanBurger I'm telling you that porn and fatherlessness causes more incels than Tates videos. There's more evidence for that than your take that an 11 year old is going to end up some piece of turd that can't get laid because he watched a Tate video.

@SW-User Actually child development sets you up for how you will actually have relationships in life. It will determine your love attachment style (secure, anxious-preoccupied, dismissive-avoidant or fearful-avoidant) because to the little boys, Tate represents "real manhood." Therefore they are going to go through life treating women in a certain manner, if Tate is indeed "his hero."

What is going to happen to this 11 year old is that he'll get a few women for sure but won't be able to hold relationships down very well. Then eventually he'll grow to be an adult where "every woman has done him wrong." You see this victimhood in covert narcissists, or well all narcissists really, where as narcissism is formed during childhood also. Particularly this type of attitude in men.

What you're attempting to do is just be entirely dismissive of it, saying there's no point, Tate's done or said nothing wrong and oh look over there *distraction.*

@SatanBurger
Again, that's something happening to both men and women that have never heard of Tate. How many boyfriends have you had and if you've had more than 1, was it the fault of Andrew Tate?


At no point has Andrew ever expressed that "women did him wrong" in fact he blames weak men for the current state of affairs . Please provide evidence for that if you have any.


I had no idea pointing to the real issues was a form of distraction.

@SW-User
That's irrelevant since the subject is Tate. I know for instance, that a bunch of factors make men and women not successful in relationships. But the subject was what Tate specifically says about women and 11 year olds thinking it's normal who watch them. I know you think that part of being a man is not taking any responsibility for what you say because "youtube gurus" convinced you otherwise, too bad that's not true though. I do give you an B+ for effort though.


Having more than one boyfriend in my entire life span is a problem? I don't believe I ever blamed Tate for that.


A lot of his followers blame women for their own misgivings that is clear in their own comments and it's clear in Andrew Tate's speech patterns that he clearly has a hang up with women.

https://en.as.com/latest_news/5-most-controversial-things-said-by-andrew-tate-n-2/

Andrew Tate said below:


A quote from the article after his comments:


Guess Tate's followers only have two brain cells?

@SatanBurger
Yes and you hold him responsible for a kids possible future failures as far as relationships go without proof but are will to dismiss that which has actually proved to be harmful to boys and yet no one is drooling at the mouth to have them banned or discouraged. Don't act like you Care about that young boy and how he turns out.


If you consider Tate a YouTube guru, show me where he says men ought not take responsibility for themselves.


You said listening to guys like him renders people unable to keep relationships, you were unable to keep your first boyfriend so perhaps you want to blame Tate or anyone like him for your failed relationship(s)?


I asked you about Tate. Not his followers.


Please explain 1. How that is evidence of blaming women.

2. Why that statement is wrong.


Ok ... What's this supposed to prove? This is the opinion of the individual writing the article... Show me evidence of Tate blaming women for any misfortune of his own.

@SW-User
It could be that beliefs that Tate holds and things like porn addiction BOTH ruin lives but this post was about something specific. You Tate simps keep acting as if one negates the other, as if there's porn addiction, it ruins lives so Tate's beliefs doesn't ruin lives of people either and I'm just 100% wrong.

I'm not wrong, if a boy has that view because Tate is his hero, it will ruin his outlook on women. It already has, if the little boy was telling the little girl all this nonsense about women to begin with right? There's a clear difference there, I don't see how it's so hard to admit that.


Don't tell me what to do, Tate simp.


For one, Tate said that women are sometimes responsible for their own rape. In many countries they also have this same view where the rape victims are punished because they didn't "assume" responsibility for what someone else did to them. Rapists often get off in these countries because of the perceived responsibility on the woman, not the man.

The rest? It's in his actions and his justifications after he says something horrible. You only justify and play victim when you DON'T accept responsibility for what you say right? He has never apologized for what he's done and if there was a small apology it came with a justification of either blaming feminists or liberals or society after the apology.

Tate has equated women to dogs, say that they always drove bad while men drove better (he actually got owned by a fellow youtuber called Hasan on that one,) admitted to moving to Romania because the authorities were lax on breaking laws there (actually I'm sugar coating what he said, he mentioned getting away with rape in regards to moving to Romania but then after claimed he "never raped anyone BUT.")

Then, encourages his students in his MLM scam to say the most controversial things in order to generate interest, views and bring in money. He actively encourages it as he stated himself.

Then, when he's caught and people are fed up with him. He says things like "feminism and liberals etc." If you take no responsibility for what you say, how can you believe in men taking responsibility if you're a man who doesn't take responsibility for themselves?

In the video, @5:53 all the way to at least @9:00:

[media=https://youtu.be/rfBG7j1U5ps]

Refusing to take responsibility for your words and actions means that deep down, he doesn't really believe in ownership right?


The only reason you see nothing wrong with it is because you're likely a toxic person and just like him. End of.

@SatanBurger
No, I said prove it, show it. Otherwise it's just your belief.


I actually came across a video that featured Tate talk about having authority over which you thought problematic, going as far as to claim that men that listen to Tate won't have long lasting relationships,well I came across a few comments on that clip:




So at least we have a few WOMEN not MEN that disagree with your take that listening to Tate would Ruin men's lives, or the life of this kid that came across a few of his clips and doesn't have experience to understand what Tate is talking about. You can't even prove that what the kid said came from Tate himself. You're linking what the boy said to Tate because he expressed Tate to be his hero. Doesn't mean Tate said the things this kid expressed.


At no point did I give you an instruction, but your seething anger doesn't allow you to read for interpretational purposes. You just respond with what feels good to you.


Show it. Link to clip, or tweet. That's the most out there accusation I've ever come across even the most hateful of his detractors never said that. But feel free to link your evidence. You can feel free to prove the rest of your rant below that nonsense claim.


Yet more evidence that you lack the ability to reason and you take snippets of what you don't like so you can go on a Tate rage. He also said if a woman is responsible for a man then he is under her authority. So I guess he likened both men and women to dogs. Do you feel better now?

Are you incapable of understanding examples to make a point about a topic? Crying out loud

@SW-User
I've actually watched several detractors mentioning these things it's pretty common knowledge. You probably don't watch as many detractors of Tate as you claim or chances are, you just hear of Tate in the heading without ever listening to the video, then just pop off in the comments because you're a Tate simp.

Either way, you're lying about watching "detractors" of Tate, I bet my whole paycheck you don't.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/19/big-brothers-andrew-tate-says-women-should-bear-responsibility-for-being-raped-in-vile-tweets-7011756/


The 11 year old boy in my post said things like "women use men for money" and called the younger girl fat, he also said a whole bunch of things only far right conservative men tend to do which builds up a victim mentality at a young age. He's 11 with no previous sexual or relationship experiences, this is the context of what I'm saying. The boy has no previous understanding of women and his only understanding is what Tate says.

The women you show are irrelevant because they're taking their own interpretation of what Tate says vs. from what he actually says. This is likely because they have conservative views to begin with and Tate aligns with them politically and not because Tate literally said this.


I think blaming women for rape is a little more to do with the fact that it's just a toxic attitude rather than saying "I just take it out of context." I think you say that because it's another way for narcissistic men with likely NPD to skirt around responsibility of what they say. I think you'd rather say I was in a Tate rage than admit you're a simp for Tate and just get enraged whenever there's criticism.

I think you want to muscle me into the ground and try to squash any criticism of him and if you can't do that, you'll bully others.

He's said a lot of justifications for things. He's said one thing and do another, such is the way with narcissists.

@SatanBurger
This is funny. Perhaps it is YOUR interpretation that is false ever thought about that? 😂🤣 Or are you beyond being wrong? So they're wrong because you hate Tate and they should hate Tate as well? My word.


Are you making the claim that conservative men are terrible with women? Also how do you know all that he believes comes from Tate? Because he said Tate was his hero? So you're ready to dismiss grown women's claims that they think Tate is right, because according to you, their interpretation is wrong, but take the words of an 11 year old which you rightly say has extremely limited ideas and experience as an accurate representation...🤷.


I'm yet to call you any names, I can't say the same for you, so I'd lay off the victim mentality since you seem to be so against it.


He's said Plenty of things I disagree with, he's allowed to be a disagreeable person and that does not warrant a ban.

@SatanBurger

Some did this how you interpret this to mean women deserve rape is beyond me.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of sleeping your way to the top? Not all that claim rape are actually raped you do understand that concept yes?.

@SW-User This was Tate's own tweet in his exact words from the article:


"I'm not saying it's OK you got raped, but you put yourself in that position so I'm saying that it's sometimes OK you got raped." ...but I don't like rapists tho...

Come on.

Literally, you can blame women for walking alone at night and if they got raped, that could be seen as their fault because they were walking out alone. There's so much wrong with that logic that I won't even repeat it.


You obviously agree with everything he says or otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.


Women don't share responsibility of being raped, no I'm not wrong. You're just like Tate and likely have a criminal record or have done some shady stuff on the down low. Why do criminals snitch on themselves?

@SatanBurger
No sorry that's a terrible interpretation. If you're warned not to go into the ocean because there are sharks nearby and you go anyway, get bitten or at worst eaten whole, then who's to blame? Its to be expected that you got attacked. That doesn't mean we rejoice at your demise, but you're responsible for your own safety. You shouldn't have been in the water at the time. What's funny is you'll accuse people of use their own interpretation, while you do exactly that.


What manner of logic is this? If I agree with some things I must agree with all? So I guess when you cast a vote for a party you agree with all their policies?


No one is responsible for being raped, be they women man or child. What you ARE responsibile for as a responsibile adult is your own safety. Why would you be out at night all alone? You think criminals care about your rights? I don't do that.. I don't know any men that do that alone without any protection, so why would a woman put herself in a position where she's at the mercy of criminals? I don't understand what point you are trying to make here. It's your body it's your life, keep it as safe as you possibly can and you do that by not putting yourself in dangerous situations. Heck I know liberal women who'll tell you that.

@SW-User
Actually when rapists rape there's usually no warning and most are someone you know or trust. It's not like women are "warned" before a rape happens. That's why blaming them is wrong.


You have some heavy justifications for what's plainly there. Even criminal defense lawyers don't justify what Tate says because they're educated enough to know what he's actually saying.

@SatanBurger
This right here proves you didn't understand what he meant when talking about authority and responsibility. He was talking about an instance in which he tells his girlfriend not to go out at night, or to stay in contact with him at all times while she's out and too come back on time. No one needs to outline why that is, the reason why he'd set such limitations should be obvious unless you just want to rage and call him a misogynist control freak. What he was pointing out is if he tells his girl not to do something with the intention of keeping her safe and she does it anyway he cannot be held responsible for the negative outcome that occur. That's a reasonable stance. You cannot be held responsible for things or people you have no authority over.


Tate isn't being charged with a crime wtf😂🤣. Yeah anyone can have an opinion on Tate so what? A criminal defense lawyer can have a problem with things you say, that means nothing, it's just an opinion not fact. What happens if another criminal defense lawyer agrees with Tate would you change your mind then? 🤣

@SW-User That's only your interpretation of what he said, if you click on the link he said none of what you're insisting. It's just more justification from you to justify rape and assault of females. Your views are the exact same as rapists who go to prison, they have the same exact mindset.

@SatanBurger I'm talking about videos I watched him speak on the matter. I could link them but I doubt you'd watch. Whatever though, he's banned so you can revel in it and assume what you will of me. Take care.