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RIP Pope Francis

I'm not a Catholic and aside from the music, artwork, and architecture it inspires, I don't have much use for religion in general. I certainly didn't agree with Francis in every area. But he was the first pope in my lifetime who I didn't view as an enemy. Instead of the incessant bleating over abortion, gay rights, and "society abandoning religion," Francis used his pulpit to speak out against issues like wealth inequality, climate change, and encouraged people to be kinder and more empathetic, not because "God" wanted them to, but because it was the right thing to do.

Because he took these positions, conservatives hated Francis. The latest podcast from conservative loudmouth Michael Savage is "Lenin's Pope." For the younger people reading this, this isn't normal. It's usually liberals complaining about the pope while conservatives extol him as a "voice of morality" and similar crap. So when people ask if the next pope will "continue on the path Francis began" or will be a "traditionalist," that's what they're referring to. Will the next pope be a culture war-obsessed piece of shit, or a decent human being?

Of course, this isn't up to me, it's up to the 135 members of the College of Cardinals, who are the cardinals under age 80 who will choose the next pope at the conclave in a few weeks. If it means anything, Francis appointed two-thirds of the ones who will be voting on his successor, and he typically chose to elevate bishops who shared his views. It takes a two-thirds majority to elect a pope.
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Northwest · M
The US conservatives began their assault on Francis and his legacy, with the Trump crew. He didn't say anything during the Melania visit, so his hillbilly surrogate took over, trying to convince Pope Francis that the hillbilly version of Catholicism is the better doctrine.

He wanted to press the issue during his meeting with the Pope, hours before he passed. The Pope did not want to meet him, but Meloni, through his contacts, managed to give him a 3-minute audience, along with his wide and his kids. The Pope used the opportunity to remind him of the Easter messages, and gave the kids 3 Easter eggs.

I see the Chief MAGA involving his MAGA VP, and Melania (for PR value) in a concentrated campaign to get a conservative Pope elected.
@Northwest or just say screw it and have elon buy an entire position in the church since he legit can do anething he wants it seems like
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Northwest · M
@LeopoldBloom According to OddsChecker, Pietro Parolin, 70, is the favorite to be the next pope at +350, meaning if you bet $100 and Parolin is elected, you'd receive $350. Parolin is the Vatican's secretary of state and has held the position since 2013. He is from Italy and was ordained in 1980.
@Northwest He definitely has the relationships with European power centers which might make a difference. He'd be the opposite of Benedict, instead of a reclusive scholar, he'd be comfortable with heads of state and business leaders. However, as I said in another thread, all of the attention is on papabile, but Francis wasn't even thought to be in the running when he was chosen. So everyone could be surprised.

I know how the betting markets in political elections work, where you bet on Candidate A, and if he wins, you get more money back based on his odds, and if he loses you get nothing. But political elections are a zero-sum game, where everyone knows that one person in the pool of candidates will win. I'm not sure how it works if the conclave picks someone who no one bet on - does everyone lose and the house makes out?
Northwest · M
@LeopoldBloom It doesn't really matter who wins, the House always wins.
@Northwest That's the vig, supposedly from the Yiddish word וויגריש ("vigorish"), borrowed from the Russian вы́игрыш ("vygrys" meaning "winnings").