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Joe Biden likes to say he is a devout Catholic, but is he, in fact, excommunicated already through his own actions? He is refused holy communion at [I Was Raised Catholic]

his own church. ALL pro-choice Catholics are automatically excommunicated. They may not receive communion until they repent sincerely. If they do receive communion without confession, they debase the holy Host. Any Doctor, nurse, or health care worker who advises for or participates in any way in an abortion are automatically excommunicated.

His recent cabinet pick of Becerra as his director of Health and Human Services, (or as Biden likes to say, Health and Education Services) alone will make Biden a willing accomplice in abortion all across this country.

Becerra plans to persecute the Little Sisters of the Poor, and many other Catholic schools and institutions, and force them to provide abortions and contraceptive services, apparently not realizing that if they do so, they would be accomplices in abortion...and this would cause them to be instantly excommunicated.

Quote: "However, the Catholic Church has always possessed the right to excommunicate since her founding by Jesus Christ, Who said “If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.” (Matthew 18:17).2 The Church is an institution, a society of persons, and must have the right to remove those who deliberately oppose the goals of that institution."

This is a lengthy article ,(link at the bottom), but it explains WHY Catholics who support abortion are automatically excommunicated. It does not JUST apply to the Catholic girl or woman who has the abortion.

Joe Biden, with his pick of Becerra, brings this horror down on the heads of all Catholics in the Untied States, who will be forced to pay for abortions with their federal taxes if Becerra becomes his director of HHS.

IMO the Pope needs to have a little chat with this clueless geezer.


https://www.hli.org/resources/abortion-and-excommunication/
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KaraLuvz · 46-50, T
Where did you get your information that all pro-choice Catholics are excommunicated. That’s categorically false. The Catholic Church does not excommunicate people on that kind of mass scale. Try actually listening to the Pope if you want to know the cannons of the Catholic Church. They say welcome all sinners with open arms.
4meAndyou · F
@KaraLuvz I did provide a link. If you decide not to read it, that's up to you.
KaraLuvz · 46-50, T
@4meAndyou doesn’t mean it’s credible
4meAndyou · F
@KaraLuvz "Excommunication (Latin ex, out of, and communio or communicatio, communion — exclusion from the communion), the principal and severest censure, is a medicinal, spiritual penalty that deprives the guilty Christian of all participation in the common blessings of ecclesiastical society. Being a penalty, it supposes guilt; and being the most serious penalty that the Church can inflict, it naturally supposes a very grave offence. It is also a medicinal rather than a vindictive penalty, being intended, not so much to punish the culprit, as to correct him and bring him back to the path of righteousness. It necessarily, therefore, contemplates the future, either to prevent the recurrence of certain culpable acts that have grievous external consequences, or, more especially, to induce the delinquent to satisfy the obligations incurred by his offence. Its object and its effect are loss of communion, i.e. of the spiritual benefits shared by all the members of Christian society; hence, it can affect only those who by baptism have been admitted to that society. Undoubtedly there can and do exist other penal measures which entail the loss of certain fixed rights; among them are other censures, e.g. suspension for clerics, interdict for clerics and laymen, irregularity ex delicto, etc. Excommunication, however, is clearly distinguished from these penalties in that it is the privation of all rights resulting from the social status of the Christian as such. The excommunicated person, it is true, does not cease to be a Christian, since his baptism can never be effaced; he can, however, be considered as an exile from Christian society and as non-existent, for a time at least, in the sight of ecclesiastical authority. But such exile can have an end (and the Church desires it), as soon as the offender has given suitable satisfaction. Meanwhile, his status before the Church is that of a stranger. He may not participate in public worship nor receive the Body of Christ or any of the sacraments. Moreover, if he be a cleric, he is forbidden to administer a sacred rite or to exercise an act of spiritual authority."

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm


'Excommunication not only external
In the first Christian centuries it is not always easy to distinguish between excommunication and penitential exclusion; to differentiate them satisfactorily we must await the decline of the institution of public penance and the well-defined separation between those things appertaining to the forum internum, or tribunal of conscience and the forum externum, or public ecclesiastical tribunal; nevertheless, the admission of a sinner to the performance of public penance was consequent on a previous genuine excommunication. [b]On the other hand, formal exclusion from reception of the Eucharist and the other sacraments was only mitigated excommunication and identical with minor excommunication (see below).[/b] At any rate, in the first centuries excommunication is not regarded as a simple external measure; it reaches the soul and the conscience. It is not merely the severing of the outward bond which holds the individual to his place in the Church; it severs also the internal bond, and the sentence pronounced on earth is ratified in heaven. It is the spiritual sword, the heaviest penalty that the Church can inflict (see the patristic texts quoted in the Decree of Gratian, cc. xxxi, xxxii, xxxiii, C. xi, q. iii). Hence in the Bull "Exsurge Domine" (16 May, 1520) Leo X justly condemned Luther's twenty-third proposition according to which "excommunications are merely external punishments, nor do they deprive a man of the common spiritual prayers of the Church". Pius VI also condemned (Auctorem Fidei, 28 Aug., 1794) the forty-sixth proposition of the Pseudo-Synod of Pistoia, which maintained that the effect of excommunication is only exterior because of its own nature it excludes only from exterior communion with the Church, as if, said the pope, excommunication were not a spiritual penalty binding in heaven and affecting souls. The aforesaid proposition was therefore condemned as false, pernicious, already reprobated in the twenty-third proposition of Luther, and, to say the least, erroneous. Undoubtedly the Church cannot (nor does it wish to) oppose any obstacle to the internal relations of the soul with God; she even implores God to give the grace of repentance to the excommunicated. The rites of the Church, nevertheless, are always the providential and regular channel through which Divine grace is conveyed to Christians; [b]exclusion from such rites, especially from the sacraments, entails therefore regularly the privation of this grace, to whose sources the excommunicated person has no longer access.[/b]"

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm
KaraLuvz · 46-50, T
I know what excommunication means I’m Roman Catholic and the church has not excommunicated Biden as that would have to come from the Vatican not one local priest @4meAndyou
4meAndyou · F
@KaraLuvz I don't think you are really capable of understanding all that I've written here, and all the quotes and sources I have given, so I won't waste my time further, except to say that excommunication through the Pope is unnecessary if you violate the precepts and goals of the Catholic Church. It is automatic.
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