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Trump painted the USA into a corner and now he wants every nation in the world that he previously trashed and then tried to annex, to come to his rescue to bail his sorry fat assss out of this jam that Hegseth put him in.
I think the ONLY option open for Trump at this stage is to pack up the truck and head back to the USA, to then fire Hegseth for his ineptitude and not take responsibility for any of it.
I think the ONLY option open for Trump at this stage is to pack up the truck and head back to the USA, to then fire Hegseth for his ineptitude and not take responsibility for any of it.
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swirlie · 31-35, F
@KunsanVeteran
Don't forget, Truman did the same thing when he unilaterally chose to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki using untested atomic warfare, because he knew the US would never win a ground invasion of Japan.
Don't forget, Truman did the same thing when he unilaterally chose to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki using untested atomic warfare, because he knew the US would never win a ground invasion of Japan.
KunsanVeteran · M
@swirlie Truman didn’t initiate WWII.
Convivial · 26-30, F
@KunsanVeteran it does give Japan a new way to look at pearl harbour...
swirlie · 31-35, F
@KunsanVeteran
That is correct, but on the other hand I never said that Truman did start WWII.
Who started WWII was Hitler in 1939. The USA was an Isolationist Nation at the start of WWII and refused to get involved with European issues for the first TWO years of that war, bringing to every Nation's attention that there was nothing in it for the Americans.
Sir Winston Churchill of Britain tried desperately to get the US involved, but for the same reason, the US wouldn't budge.
During that Isolationist period of the USA from the end of WW-I to the first 2 years into WW-II, the Americans were providing support and supplies to the Allied Forces who were fighting in Europe during WWII, however the US remained neutral in WW-II.
Then on December 07, 1941 Japan launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and the US immediately declared war on Japan. This would mark America's very first initiative to take up arms ever since the war in Europe had begun 2 years earlier.
Then on December 11, 1941 Hitler then declared war on the USA in revenge for America trying to thwart Hitler's efforts to annex central Europe which occurred when the US was providing support to Hitler's enemy.
The USA was now at war simultaneously with Japan and Germany which were two worlds apart, though up to this point in time, the USA had not set foot in either Japan or Europe.
Up to this point in time as well, the the Allied Forces who'd been fighting against Hitler in Europe had only been at war with Hitler in Europe and never were affected by Japan's antics against the USA.
The USA was getting it from both sides now because both Germany and Japan saw the USA as lazy opportunists who were undermining Hitler's efforts who were chosing to remain as a Protectionist, Isolationist Nation unto itself as America was viewed as an elephant sleeping in the grass on the sidelines.
Following the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the US went to war against Japan which became known as the Pacific War, but the US began to fail miserably from the outset because they were both out-gunned and out-numbered when dealing with the Japanese military.
Keep in mind that the largest Navy in the world during WWII was actually the Canadian Navy, not Germany and not Japan, yet with Canada being involved with WWII in Europe since 1939, they weren't about to send their Navy fleet into the Pacific to help the Americans who up to this point, had refused to get involved with WW-II. Now, the US Navy was on their own in the middle of the Pacific with no allies to help them out...
In April of 1945, Harry Truman took over as President of the USA after the sudden death of Eisenhower, though WWII was still in full swing in Europe when this happened and now the Pacific War was dragging on in the Pacific as well.
The only one predictable outcome for the USA was inevitable failure, followed by a full-scale retreat from the Pacific if this continued. The US Navy had not kept up it's fleet upgrades, nor was the USAF in any position to cause any real harm or assistance for that matter, mainly because of their outdated American equipment. Wakeup call for the USA.
After warring with the Japanese for the previous 4 years under Eisenhower, President Truman unilaterally decided to launch a secret air campaign against Japan using un-tested Atomic warfare, since it was evident to all concerned that the USA could never win a ground offensive with Japan if it came to that, which is where the Pacific War was going next... American boots on the ground in Japan.
Then in August of 1945 and only 4 months as a Presidential replacement, Truman called for the deployment of Atomic warfare on Japan, targeting Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
This marked the surrender of Japan because Japan thought that the US had hundreds of Atomic bombs at it's disposal, when in fact the US only had those first 2 Atomic bombs that it dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Had the Japanese known that the USA was fresh out of Atomic bombs, the Japanese would never have surrendered to the Americans.
Truman didn’t initiate WWII.
That is correct, but on the other hand I never said that Truman did start WWII.
Who started WWII was Hitler in 1939. The USA was an Isolationist Nation at the start of WWII and refused to get involved with European issues for the first TWO years of that war, bringing to every Nation's attention that there was nothing in it for the Americans.
Sir Winston Churchill of Britain tried desperately to get the US involved, but for the same reason, the US wouldn't budge.
During that Isolationist period of the USA from the end of WW-I to the first 2 years into WW-II, the Americans were providing support and supplies to the Allied Forces who were fighting in Europe during WWII, however the US remained neutral in WW-II.
Then on December 07, 1941 Japan launched a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and the US immediately declared war on Japan. This would mark America's very first initiative to take up arms ever since the war in Europe had begun 2 years earlier.
Then on December 11, 1941 Hitler then declared war on the USA in revenge for America trying to thwart Hitler's efforts to annex central Europe which occurred when the US was providing support to Hitler's enemy.
The USA was now at war simultaneously with Japan and Germany which were two worlds apart, though up to this point in time, the USA had not set foot in either Japan or Europe.
Up to this point in time as well, the the Allied Forces who'd been fighting against Hitler in Europe had only been at war with Hitler in Europe and never were affected by Japan's antics against the USA.
The USA was getting it from both sides now because both Germany and Japan saw the USA as lazy opportunists who were undermining Hitler's efforts who were chosing to remain as a Protectionist, Isolationist Nation unto itself as America was viewed as an elephant sleeping in the grass on the sidelines.
Following the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the US went to war against Japan which became known as the Pacific War, but the US began to fail miserably from the outset because they were both out-gunned and out-numbered when dealing with the Japanese military.
Keep in mind that the largest Navy in the world during WWII was actually the Canadian Navy, not Germany and not Japan, yet with Canada being involved with WWII in Europe since 1939, they weren't about to send their Navy fleet into the Pacific to help the Americans who up to this point, had refused to get involved with WW-II. Now, the US Navy was on their own in the middle of the Pacific with no allies to help them out...
In April of 1945, Harry Truman took over as President of the USA after the sudden death of Eisenhower, though WWII was still in full swing in Europe when this happened and now the Pacific War was dragging on in the Pacific as well.
The only one predictable outcome for the USA was inevitable failure, followed by a full-scale retreat from the Pacific if this continued. The US Navy had not kept up it's fleet upgrades, nor was the USAF in any position to cause any real harm or assistance for that matter, mainly because of their outdated American equipment. Wakeup call for the USA.
After warring with the Japanese for the previous 4 years under Eisenhower, President Truman unilaterally decided to launch a secret air campaign against Japan using un-tested Atomic warfare, since it was evident to all concerned that the USA could never win a ground offensive with Japan if it came to that, which is where the Pacific War was going next... American boots on the ground in Japan.
Then in August of 1945 and only 4 months as a Presidential replacement, Truman called for the deployment of Atomic warfare on Japan, targeting Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
This marked the surrender of Japan because Japan thought that the US had hundreds of Atomic bombs at it's disposal, when in fact the US only had those first 2 Atomic bombs that it dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Had the Japanese known that the USA was fresh out of Atomic bombs, the Japanese would never have surrendered to the Americans.
KunsanVeteran · M
@swirlie You said Truman did the same thing Demented Donnie did.
Truman was leading our country in a war that it was drawn into by a sneak attack with a country that had not declared war on us.
Very different situation. He was presented with the options available to him and chose the ones he weighed as best. He is choices were: ground invasion vs those bombings.
All things considered, I think he made the best choice of two horrible alternatives. What’s more, if he had a more humane option, then I believe he would have taken it.
You can’t equate Truman and the situation he found himself in and Demented Donnie in the unnecessary & dishonest war he and Netanyahu initiated. False equivalency.
Truman was leading our country in a war that it was drawn into by a sneak attack with a country that had not declared war on us.
Very different situation. He was presented with the options available to him and chose the ones he weighed as best. He is choices were: ground invasion vs those bombings.
All things considered, I think he made the best choice of two horrible alternatives. What’s more, if he had a more humane option, then I believe he would have taken it.
You can’t equate Truman and the situation he found himself in and Demented Donnie in the unnecessary & dishonest war he and Netanyahu initiated. False equivalency.
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