Afghanistan - well done our lads

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Well done our paratroopers now coming home from Afghanistan who were put in the unenviable position of evacuation thousands due to Biden’s bungling. One cannot believe that the Americans have left behind millions of dollars worth of equipment including 200 planes to people who are known terrorists. Worse still, there are databases of at least 7000 people who have worked with the Americans which the Taliban are now going round treating as traitors and executing. So well done Mr President. Mass genocide on your watch!

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anythingoes477 · M

You do know the end of hostilities was not negotiated by Biden....right? Trump made the agreement for how to leave and when to leave last May....with terrorists.....not the Afghani government. In negotiating with the terrorist Taliban, Rump completely cut the U.N. and the Afghani security forces from being a part of the deal to protect us when we left. So the same attacks would have taken place last May...or in August.

Also Biden has zero to do with any equipment being left behind. It was left behind in Vietnam.....Iraq.....and after WWII. That's a Pentagon decision. Why? Because war is for profit. No contractors want used equipment back....when they can simply use what was left behind to justify lobbying for a new, bugger military budget next year.....every year. No profits for the stockholders are made if used equipment comes home. But making new weapons and tanks and Humvees....that's where the money is. You don't get how this works, do you?

Grvstu · 70-79, F

Sorry that is absolute rubbish. It was Biden’s decision to withdraw. He could’ve torn up trumps decision like he’s torn up of the rest of Trump’s decision since making office. It is the planning of the withdrawal that has been a shambles and leaving there all the equipment behind is the biggest shambles. What you say has got nothing to do with it and he is merely propaganda by the left to try and justify Bidens complete nonsense@anythingoes477

anythingoes477 · M

@Grvstu FOX addict I take it. A sitting president can tear up an E.O. for allowing dirty water or takes school kid's lunches away from them.........but a declaration to end war agreed to by a prior president is a national issue. Biden didn't do as the agreement said by leaving in May...but he did issue evacuation orders for all U.S. citizens in April. The fact they didn't leave....some still haven't....was their choice.

I know you're an government logistics expert......Hannidy version.........but I worked for the NSA for years. The nonsense here is yours.

Grvstu · 70-79, F

Lol! I and English dummy! You are a simpleton who believes anything! Read British newspapers and not your liberal lefty American trash. @anythingoes477

anythingoes477 · M

@Grvstu Oooooh ur English........no wonder you're an expert in U.S. policy and military protocol here. Did you ever work in U.S. government or serve in the military....by proxy while living in England..... to know what you're talking about??

Craziest thing.....I did both.......here. ;-)

You seem to be adequately lie-radicalized and full enough of self induced rage to live here. But then....you don't...do you?

Grvstu · 70-79, F

More of an expert than you guys appear to be. You and your impotent president have left us with a worldwide terrorist problem now. Thanks! @anythingoes477

anythingoes477 · M

@Grvstu My you are well informed. lol lol lol Thank you for your insight. You can't imagine how much I value it. But then I kid. ;-)

Grvstu · 70-79, F

Well some of us do not read the biased liberal media. Some of us read reality@anythingoes477

anythingoes477 · M

@Grvstu You're kind of like a bee at a picnic, aren't you? The only one in this conversation that don't realize you're clueless seems to be you. You read whatever biased rags you chose....and think that is somehow more right on the money for truth than what ex-military and ex_NSA knows about that is going on firsthand in a country 4000 miles away from you. Then you think despite the fact that you are going into a gunfight with a knife in terms of knowledge.........against someone whose been there done that...that you can bullshit me into thinking you know more about my own military and my own government that I have worked in......than I do. That's boring.

Grvstu · 70-79, F

Bee at a picnic. At least a bee knows what it’s doing which is more than the Biden administration does. Sorry but it is a shambles whatever your liberal media make out. Hundreds are at risk. But do we care as long as we speak the polically correct speech? No. @anythingoes477

anythingoes477 · M

@Grvstu Tell me....did you raise hell Karen when Trump let the Kurds die in Turkey? Or did you miss that in your London newspaper? Look up how many of our allies Trump let die in Turkey....then get back to me about Biden and Afghanistan.

Grvstu · 70-79, F

Stop distracting people from the subject. The subject is Afghanistan buddy. Trump is gone. I never supported Trump. You liberals seem to have an obsession that anyone who disagrees with Biden automatically is a trump supporter and it is absolutely idiotic@anythingoes477

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Virgo79 · 61-69, M

@anythingoes477 check again, that stuff was destroyed and what wasn't was dumped into the ocean.
I know vets that can confirm it.

anythingoes477 · M

@Virgo79 When Bush told us we HAD to start a war in Afghanistan....he made sure to stress it wasn't really a war. "There is no winning or losing....blah, blah....we're just there to "help them"..blah, blah...."win hearts and minds"...blah, blah. The same exact thing they said when we went to Vietnam. Sooooo long story shortened since we were not at "war"....nothing that got shipped over there like tanks, Humveees....planes even.....were "ours". We brought them there to GIVE to....outfit the Afghani army we were "training and helping". Enough stuff to make sure they were trained enough...had enough armanent....to fend off the Taliban after we accomplished the original mission of killing Ben Laden.

I don't care who you ask...if you even know anyone to ask. ANYTHING left on Afghani soil when we pulled out was left there because diplomatically it all belonged to the supposed Afghan "army". If we were there to "train an Army" and not be at war ourselves (and war was never declared)....then why diplomatically would all the war machinery be removed when we left because it really was ours??

What is done.....and how it is done diplomatically is two different ballgames. If we had of declared war on Afghanistan....then we could have legitimately sent over enough of OUR stuff to win a war. But with no declaration of war....international law would not have allowed the U.S. to "invade" a country we were not at war with tanks, planes, you name it. Because when you enter a country armed...that is an international act of war. But if you are there to TRAIN that country's army...then you have every right to GIVE them the things you will be training them how to use.

I doubt you know a vet to ask........and if you do.........he was so uniformed he told you what he did because he didn't know any better. Either way.............ur wrong. Nothing was taken out to sea and dumped. Especially when the full expectations was that the Afghani army would use all of it to fight the Taliban after we were gone. lol Besides....DUH...when would we have done that? Why would we have destroyed everything?? Especially "dumping it in the ocean". ;-) ;-) When we do that? In the 7 days it took to fly out anyone who helped us? Hauled out to sea on what ships? Anyone see a Navy presence in Afghanistan????? LOL LOL LOL More conspiracy theory BS my friend. What was left....dropped when the Afghani "army" desserted....is now in Taliban hands and diplomatically...none of it belonged to the U.S. military.

Virgo79 · 61-69, M

@anythingoes477 you're totally confused, in "other" wars they did that🤦‍♂️
Theres even film footage of it.
No matter how hard you try, you can't spin this clusterfuck.

anythingoes477 · M

@Virgo79 Why don't you show me some of that film footage. Wanna bet you can't remember where that link is anymore?

Grvstu · 70-79, F

You really are a crashing and uninformed bore, aren’t you? Do you only come on here because people can’t stand your company in the real world?@anythingoes477