Two weeks notice

@goneNow6565 i do that too lmao

@PepsiColaP That's good. It is about time employees take some of the power back.

I remember I told a friend about this tactic of leveraging one job offer against another to get more and more money. He didn't like it because it isn't honest. He's stupid. "Cheating" on companies is why I broke 6 figures only 4 years after uni. If I had just accepted the first offer, I would probably be looking for a trailer home now rather than a house.

@PepsiColaP I'm very chatty today.

@goneNow6565 negotiating power is v important , i think that the younger generation is more willing to experiment with theirs , and obv highly skilled / niche professionals ,but they dont reflect the general labour market . It feels like its been fairly compromised under rapid growth bcs most of that growth translates to wealth and property for employers

@PepsiColaP I never knew what it was like to be in a position where companies would seek me out before. It took a long time for me to get here but now that I know what that is like, I always look at linkedin job posts and check out job ads even when I already am happy with my job. I think about what trends in my industry are blowing up and then I just do my best in my spare time to get school or whatever to prove to people that I can fulfill their trendy need. I am pretty sure most young people don't know about this.

Oh wow the funniest thing to me is when I saw other people doing volunteer work hoping it would get them a job later if they put it on their resume. So they were out there building homes for poor people or whatever. Wtf...are you guys doing? lol? Companies don't care about that. I never did that.

@PepsiColaP career is my favorite subject in the world, as you can see....that and sex

@goneNow6565 I would never hire anyone using that tactic or similar.. I’ll hire a novice with a good attitude first. If I ever heard of the employers I know falling for that nonsense I would be livid and they most certainly would know in no uncertain terms what a fool they are!

@wunderluv Of course you wouldn't. I wouldn't either. But anyways, nobody else is going to look after me except for me

also bear in mind that it isn't any different when Lockheed Martin just suddenly lays off thousands of people without consideration for those people's life plans

this is all just business to me

@goneNow6565 I respect your motivation in taking care of yourself and leaving a company to make their own decisions but while I respect you trying for better pay I believe in paying a fair wage and offering what is the industry plus a little to the right person from the beginning and negotiating with that respect in the open. I prefer clear direct communication based on respect and I make those values clear wherever it comes up. I understand that some very large corporations as you described are or can make sudden or unexpected moves that indeed do affect thousands of employees. Let me offer you a different perspective however based on your example of Lockheed Martin .. they operate on a bid for contract actually those are typically design R&D multi year billions of dollar deals which can fall through if a competitor has a better overall bid or a better product or maybe just a better sales pitch or sales team. The point is that those businesses are often forced to make awful decisions based upon the decisions of powerbrokers and worst of all off the decisions of the damned - I mean politicians. So consider that when looking for the best place to put the blame for harm to employees in the case you mentioned ok?
I’m not necessarily saying that my version is correct either since we aren’t talking about the specifics of a deal that affected employees as you have said.

ADDED NOTE: Realistically in order to have a useful discussion and critique of Lockheed Martin or any other major corporation and their business practices it is necessary to have a whole lot more information then we have to know if the decision was reasonable, fair and justified based on the contingent nature of the proposed project contracts. Bear in mind again that these contracts are affected by the most evil people on the planet called politicians.. so there’s that.
I’m so grateful that the employers that I mentioned never got involved with contracts related to the military industrial complex. If they ever considered such a contract you can be sure that I would let them know of my strong disapproval

@wunderluv I don't hold any ill will to any of the companies I leave hanging. Just like Lockheed Martin has to make awful decisions for their bottom line. So do I.

@wunderluv I actually consider layoffs to be a symptom of poor project management. If you are running a company even if times are tight you should manage your business in such a way that you are accommodating the business cycle into your company's future. If it happens that one day you find yourself staff heavy because of a boom then that just means poor management of your business. It is wasteful because now when the boom subsides and then comes back again you have to waste time retraining people rather than just being ready with the same experienced employees from the start. Every time I see a layoff of a large corporation I think of this. Why didn't they plan for the business cycle? They didn't have accurate sales projections? Salaries are a huge expenditure, how could they not have thought this through? It is only MILLIONs of dollars.