No surprise cats are number one

I would have thought dogs, or at least "other animals," would be higher than turbines. They don't seem to be on the list. But did you notice building glass accounts for over 20,000 times as many? The birds can't see the glass, it looks like a clear path through. If you care about the birds keep your high windows dirty so they don't look like a clear path through. Oh, and use turbines so we put less pollution in the air and the birds can have great-great-great-great-great grandchildren.

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ninjavu · 51-55, M

I think wind turbines kill more eagles and hawks -- predators -- than sparrows and such. Predators of all species (including birds) are smaller in number than those further down the food chain. So yes, house cats kill a fuck tonne of birds (not many predators though), but the issue with wind turbines is that they are (to my understanding) having a bad effect on the predators that are a necessary part of the food chain.

Under natural conditions birds don't have "great-great-great-great-great grandchildren" (same with humans), so eliminating cats or turbines won't change that.

Of course, my data is based on the same source as yours. ;)

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ninjavu · 51-55, M

@SparkleLeaf

Reports from The department of energy directly contradict your premise

Okay, I will take your word for it. I didn't read or even scan the whole report. There are alot of things I'm interested in, but I can't read every report on every subject.

What is your theory as to why history seems to go back so much further than that? This should be downright fascinating.

You've completely misinterpreted my statement, although my statement could probably have been more clear. My great-great-great-great-great grandparents are not alive (and I suspect yours aren't either) and I will never see or personally know my great-great-great-great-great grandchildren. They will exist, for sure (unless we destroy the planet before they're born), but I meant that there is no personal relationship between generations that far apart, in birds or humans. I interpreted your original post (again, probably incorrectly, and perhaps you too could have been more clear) as suggesting that birds need the opportunity to have direct interaction with their "great-great-great-great-great grandchildren."

smiler2012 · 56-60

@SparkleLeaf i have know on the odd occasion there has been a dull thud on the window of our house and a bird has misjudged somethimes they are lucky and it just shakes them up but other have not been so lucky sadly 😞

NativePortlander1970

It's called nature

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