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I Believe In Heaven and Hell

I definitely believe in an after life and you don't believe in God or hell, I'm sorry for you. Youre in for a big surprise. Its a really bad place where bad people go. A lot of people here on this site will be there...forever. That the worst part. Its a one way path only. Its really really hot down there, hotter than a heat wave. No air conditioner, no restaurants no tv, Nothing but darkness and fire, and mean devils who do bad things to you, like toss you around like a rag doll and torment you and say really mean things to you. They are a thousand times more evil than Hitler. They have hated you since you were born and have been tempting you to sin and cant wait for you to die and come to their home in hell. The pain will be unbearable like no pain you've ever felt before.And if you were blind or handicapped on earth you'll be in the same situation in hell. If you are full of hatred, you better repent and pray and ask God to take that away from you because youre definitey not reaching the pearly gates. God doesnt expect perfect people but people are actually making an effort to please him. He wants us to love and forgive no matter what. Okay friends? .if you end up in hell dont blame God but yourself, but you sent yourself there. I dont want to go there. I pray to God to help me please him so I don't burn for eternity. Those who know right from wrong and have heard about God and his teachings and were given the opportunity to turn to him and live Godly but reject him will spend eternity there. Please dont end up there my friends.

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Entwistle · 56-60, M

Heaven and hell are mental states.

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SpiritualMan · M

@Entwistle They are also places in the afterlife. I heard an interesting theory by an Orthodox priest once. He said that God is like a fire, and that for the saved, that fire feels great, but for the lost, it torments them.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@Entwistle OK

Carazaa · F

@SpiritualMan God says "I am a consuming fire"

Entwistle · 56-60, M

I'd take no notice of orhaodox priests tbh.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa they also missed the part where after the lost try to take the holy city .in the presence of the save
God calls fire down and destroys them all

some verses say the flame comes from his mouth ,,
But satan ,death hell and the grave and death all get destroyed ,,tossed into the lake of fire

Carazaa · F

@EntwistleI am no orthodox philosopher, just a Christian, saved by grace.

Entwistle · 56-60, M

I never said you were an orthodox philosopher.

SpiritualMan · M

@EntwistleThat isn't the point, the point is I found his belief on that point interesting.

SpiritualMan · M

@Carazaa Well maybe then that priest's point makes sense.

Carazaa · F

@Entwistle After death, when Jesus comes back in the clouds you will be resurrected out of the grave at the sound of a shout, your name will be called, and you will have to account for your life to Jesus. I hope your name will be in the book of life, and Jesus will have paid your ransom. This is what Easter is all about. That's why we eat lamb for Easter all around the world. Jesus IS the lamb that takes away the sins of the whole world. I care about you, it is no coincidence you are reading this now.

SpiritualMan · M

@Carazaa Jesus already paid the ransom for everyone. Whether or not it is applied depends on if someone has faith in Christ.

Entwistle · 56-60, M

The celebration of easter started long before Christianity got a hold of it.i don't want to be resurrected.

Carazaa · F

@SpiritualManI don't rely on what anyone says. I get my knowledge only from the Bible.

SpiritualMan · M

@Entwistle We will be resurrected at the Second Coming, or at the end of the millennial reign. True Easter predates Christ, but the ancient Church moved the the celebration of Christ's resurrection to Easter to try to counteract the pagan holiday. The 40 days of Lent are the 40 days of weeping for Tammuz. The eating of ham on Easter goes back to a tradition from that a wild boar killed Tammuz, so his family and people killed the boar and ate it in revenge. The Easter eggs come from an ancient belief in an egg laying rabbit connected with Semiramis. In fact I think I heard something about her coming back in an egg an popping out of it, or an egg shaped thing, as the Queen of Heaven. Of course the bible says that weeping for Tammuz and worshiping the Queen of Heaven are abominations to God.

Lamb meat represents Christ.

SpiritualMan · M

@Carazaa Yes, BUT what he said makes some sense according to biblical statements.

Carazaa · F

@EntwistleI didn't say you did.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@SpiritualMan not quite true ,,or no one would be lost
the cross was a Betrothal ,,the blood is not applied until the end of the world ,,for those who's names remain in the Lambs Book of Life

Heb 9: 24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 for then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: [b]but now once in the end of the world [/b]hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

SpiritualMan · M

@rckt148 How can anyone be saved by their own merit, we are imperfect, we need the blood to be worthy to enter heaven at all. God requires perfection to be saved, since we can't get it in our own, we need the redemotion of Christ. The verse of "the end of the world" MEANS the end of the Old Testament age (aeon in Greek). It does NOT mean the 2nd Coming.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@SpiritualMan you are thinking carnal ,,Gods word is spiritual ,,be buried in Christ ,,and by not sinning willfully ,,when we sin repent ,,and Christ as our Advocate says "I already paid for that "
But if after we know the truth ,and reject it
the blood is no longer for you

Hebrews 10:26-31 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
26 [b]For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins[/b], 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

SpiritualMan · M

@rckt148 The CONTEXT of Hebrews, is for Jews that heard the gospel, then decided, nah, I will go back to the old animal sacrificial system after rejecting Christ. With the bible, CONTEXT IS KING in proper interpretation. Verse 26 is for people who are never saved, hear the gospel, are convicted by the Holy Spirit, but never trust Christ, but then shrink back, and think that something else can saved them instead of Christ. CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT is KING.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@SpiritualMan We are the wild olive branch grafted into the vine ,,,now we are Jews
The things they would not do ,,now is our chance
and believing in Christ which they did not do and I guess you missed the part in my other post about the blood not being applied to the mercy seat until the end of the world
And Christ saying in Revelation that if you let the beast alter one word of the Prophecy and Gods laws ,the key to entering the Holy city ,,you will remove your own name from the book of life ,,you have chose the image of the beast over God

SpiritualMan · M

@rckt148 No I read that verse, but it talks about Christ being sacrificed at the end of the world, or age in Greek. So that MUST mean then the end of the Old Testament age. The Old Testament age ended when Christ was crucified.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@SpiritualMan Here is one to ponder
Eccl 12 :9 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. 10 The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. 11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. 12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

13 [b]Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.[/b] 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

SpiritualMan · M

@rckt148 It is the duty of man to keep God's commands, it does not FOLLOW that it MEANS we earn our way into heaven.

rckt148 · 61-69, M

@SpiritualMan take your questions to your quiet place and ask God to open your eyes
Try my spirit ,am I for God or against Him
did I twist His Word or try to push a doctrine or deceive

120 times in the new covenant alone He says Keep my commandments and warns in Daniel 7:25 a man would think he had the authority to change them ,,,well he did
And a man sits on a throne saying he is God
can forgive sin ,his official title does translate to 666
the church has killed saints ,drove them into the wilderness
the church was stripped of its power (the wound ) its power has been restored (wound healed ) Governments have signed allegiances to it and will soon enforce her laws
she has been around over 1260 yrs ,,was pagan then claimed to be Chrisrian but still asks to keep holy days and worship angels Col 2 .and acts of humility ,washings ,things to abstain from ,is religious and political ,and sits on 7 mountains
all of it fulfilled except her laws being enforced
The mark is her laws oppose Gods ,,
Gods show we know Him ,mans show we know tradition
Gods show us why we need a Saviour ,mans say we need a man

I am done ,,very tired ,,we can talk about this at another time and I will be glad to share the message and make my (Gods ) position clear
There will be only 2 sides ,,the many will chose the wrong one ,,the few will find the right path that leads to God

Christ said that ,not Rick ,I just paraphrased it

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