I Believe In Heaven and Hell

@JupiterDreams Everyone is born separated from God, we need redemption in Christ to get into heaven. Now some scriptures hint that some may be able to have faith after death, but no one is perfect, everyone is born with a tendency to sin. That qualifies everyone for hell without redemption.

While I theorize some may be able to repent after death, two classes of people will never be able to repent, those that blaspheme the Holy Spirit with full knowledge and consent, and those that take the mark of the beast.

God doesn't send people to hell, it is the natural state of the unredeemed person after death.

@SpiritualMan Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Rev 22: 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Rev:19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, [b]God shall take away his part out of the book of life[/b], and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

This is all part of a 2 part Prophecy 1/2 by Christ through John ,,the other half given by Gabriel to Daniel who had to come back twice because Daniel passed out and did not understand the message

Christ said to know it and to understand it ,,
Its all a warning about 1 Church that changes Gods law and the wolves in sheep's clothing who have also perverted the Gospel of Christ ,,,If your name does not remain in the book of life until Christ comes
And probation closes after the warning

Revelation 18:4 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, [b]that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues[/b].

then this happens

2 Thessalonians 2:11 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
11 And for this cause [b]God shall send them strong delusion[/b], that they should believe a lie:

We can't candy coat it ,it is what it is
If people want to tarry because they don't think the master is coming ,thats on them ,,there is no purgatory
He is bringing our reward with HIM (WE GET TO GO WITH HIM)
the rest live not for another 1000 yrs ,and then they wake to destruction ,,even hell /the grave is destroyed

@rckt148 I am candy coating nothing. The bible says we are saved by grace through faith. Those that finally reject the Lord are lost, but there is time to repent. Repenting after death is not purgatory.

@rckt148 Note that the final judgment takes place at the END of the 1,000 years.

@SpiritualMan no I am sorry to tell you and I do not mean this with any disrespect ,were that true ,,how does Christ know who is raised and who stays for the 1000 yrs
why does the verse I just posted straight from scripture say when He comes his reward is with Him

Doctrines are costing souls
And those not lead by the holy spirit are warned too

James 3:1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

the Blood is ONLY for those who are saved ,who know and do the will of the Father ,,
how do I know that ?Well Christ said it

Matthew 12:50 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

How do we know we know Him ,,He answered that too
if this is a lie ,,then the word of God is a lie

3 And hereby [b]we do know that we know him[/b], [b]if[/b] we [b]keep his commandments[/b]. 4 He that saith,[b] I know him[/b], and [b]keepeth not[/b] his commandments, [b]is a liar[/b], and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, [b]in him verily is the love of God perfected[/b]: hereby know we that we are in him.[b] 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.[/b]

@JupiterDreams We can think we are good enough to be included in heaven. But the fact is that God says that NO ONE is good NO NOT ONE! Jesus, Almighty God took all the sins of the whole world on his shoulders so we can enter in. He is Holy, and one single sin doesn't cut it. There is no sin in heaven. All of us come short! "But God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

@rckt148 That does not mean sinless perfection to be saved, it just means that keeping God's commands is a GENERAL sign you are truly saved. The blood of Christ made provision for salvation.

Ephesians 2:8-10 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

@SpiritualMan Absolutely false!

@Carazaa What is false?

@rckt148 The people God sends the strong delusion to, either already worship the Beast or have his mark, they can never repent after they take the mark. That strong delusion has NOTHING to do with Christians.

@SpiritualMan Not true Spiritual man, please do not teach this.

@Carazaa WHAT is not true, WHAT are you referring to.

@rckt148 Thank you!

@JupiterDreams I would encourage you if you really are after truth to read Gods words for yourself. Don't listen to anyone but God. And in the Bible Jesus gave us signs in Matthew 24 when we see these signs we are the generation that will see his coming back. I believe the time is short. I am here to witness His love for the world!

@SpiritualMan so tell me then "Whats the Mark"
God already told us what His seal is if you study
What is the mark and when then is this to take place ?

And to be right up front ,,I was a Sunday preacher
I stepped down from my pulpit when God told me I was opposing Him and teaching after the traditions of men ,and leading His sheep to stray ,,so trust me I have heard every angle
what is you take on the Mark ,,,it is spelled out in Daniel and Revelation ,,,Who is the beast we are to come out of and what has it done that God will destroy all who take her name
(Woman in Prophecy is a church ,,Gods Pure ,satans the whore )accept its head as God ,,or its image
which means to do as she does ,,,what say you
what is the mark everyone keeps talking about but never explain ?

@rckt148 The mark may be a biochip that will be for transactions, but also change people's DNA into hybrids, like the ancient Nephilim or Rephaim. True Sunday is not the Sabbath, the New Testament Sabbath is resting in Christ for salvation 24/7. The saved are continually in God's Sabbath automatically. The Jewish Sabbath was a type and shadow of Christ.

@Carazaa WHAT is not true that I said?

@SpiritualMan Do not tell people that after they are dead they have a second chance this is NOT true at all. I am not going to debate this any more.

@Carazaa Ok don't. I am not sure, but I am not convinced, and am searching that matter out.

@Carazaa if they understand it comes from there or not
that is a papal belief
you get a second chance in purgatory
the Catholics even say I lie until I give them right from a Papal edition Bible meant only for Bishops and Popes
where it tells how to shorten dead loved ones time in Purgatory and how to shorten your own time
Except unless the "pope" saints you ,,until Christ comes you can't leave ,,only saints go to heaven
and all who have not received absolution go to hell

@Carazaa To be honest, I am not convinced there is a 2nd chance after death, but I am not convinced there ISN'T either.

@rckt148 Absolution comes by faith in Christ, defined by trusting Christ in the Greek word for faith.

@SpiritualMan Biochips will NEVER send people to hell. If you haven't repented and are not saved, there is no fruit,then you're not going to heaven. Churches are so hung up on biochips. A sign in the hand or forhead is a "symbol" for our actions. If you are not acting [i]loving[/i] and you are giving in to sin and not producing fruit you are not [i]saved[/i].You have the hand and mind of Christ, or [i]NOT[/i]. Churches are looking for physical signs of saved people, or 666 and other silly things. The Pharacies missed Jesus the first time, and The Churches are missing Jesus the second time! Listen to Paul Washer, John Piper, or Alistair Begg. These are very faithful Godly men in my opinion, not getting their insight from any seminary or book other than God's Holy Bible.

@Carazaa And you KNOW that it won't be a chip for a FACT? It is true that to even GET the mark one must worship the beast, one can't get it by accident or against their will.

@SpiritualManA chip will never send you to hell! Denying Jesus because you are not really saved will!