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I'm really looking at this from the perspective of Christian Universalism:-
Ephesians 1:9-10 – “… making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.”
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Timothy 2:3-4, NKJV).
There are other verses, but the meaning is clear. God's will will not be thwarted. This is what Thomas Talbott calls the "inescapable love of God"
Therefore our "fate" is to be part of this glorious future.
So yes, it's just a question of when we accept our fate!
😀
Ephesians 1:9-10 – “… making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.”
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Timothy 2:3-4, NKJV).
There are other verses, but the meaning is clear. God's will will not be thwarted. This is what Thomas Talbott calls the "inescapable love of God"
Therefore our "fate" is to be part of this glorious future.
So yes, it's just a question of when we accept our fate!
😀
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@pipedreams I’m not a theist, but thanks for the reply!
@Bumbles No, I'm not either. But I'm interested in all forms of religious expression, and Universalism (in its Christian expression) is one of the better forms.
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It would depend upon what we consider our fate to be.
@Bumbles How does it work?
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@pipedreams Destiny! Nothing can ever be what it was not destined to be. There is only one continuous now.
@Bumbles Are you familiar with the opening lines of "Burnt Norton", the first part of "Four Quartets" by T.S.Eliot?
Time present and time past
Are both perhaps present in time future
And time future contained in time past.
If all time is eternally present
All time is unredeemable.
What might have been is an abstraction
Remaining a perpetual possibility
Only in a world of speculation.
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present.
Footfalls echo in the memory
Down the passage which we did not take
Towards the door we never opened
Into the rose-garden. My words echo
Thus, in your mind.
Time present and time past
Are both perhaps present in time future
And time future contained in time past.
If all time is eternally present
All time is unredeemable.
What might have been is an abstraction
Remaining a perpetual possibility
Only in a world of speculation.
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present.
Footfalls echo in the memory
Down the passage which we did not take
Towards the door we never opened
Into the rose-garden. My words echo
Thus, in your mind.