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What would God say about all this?

Do you honestly think there is any hope for all of us? Everyone fighting, name calling, wars in the Name of God. Do you think we will ever get along, ever?
LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79
There is always hope. Not really into "God" as "Him up there" looking down upon the turmoil and having thoughts about it. In Christian terms, I have a more "incarnational" way of understanding/living things - the Incarnation not so much a one-off event in the past, but an eternal ever present incarnation, "he" as us, and us as "him". Non-dual.

As a Pure Land Buddhist, I think no one has expressed it better than Hiroyuki Itsuki, in his book "Tariki: Embracing Despair, Discovering Peace"

Partly autobiographical, from reading it you know that his words are not born of an easy life. The man knew what it was to suffer, from a very early age. Early on a refugee, later waking up in situations where you hoped the one next to you had died so that you could have their clothes, or any other possessions. He wrote once that he had learnt more from his father's sigh than from all the books on philosophy he had read.

Anyway, a passage from the book:--

The Other Power (Tariki) derives from the true and full acceptance of the reality that is within us and surrounds us. It is not a philosophy of passivity or iresponsibility, but one of radical spiritual activity, of personal, existential revolution. Its essence is the spontaneous wondrous force that gives us the will to act, to "do what man can do and then wait for heaven's will." Importantly, Other Power is a power that flows from the fundamental realization that, in the lives we live, we are already enlightened. This enlightenment does not come easily. It is born of the unwelcome understanding that, despite our protestations, we are insignificant, imperfect beings, born to a hell of suffering that defines human existence. But in this hell, we sometimes excounter small joys, friendship, the kind acts of strangers, and the miracle of love. We experience moments when we are filled with courage, when the world sparkles with hopes and dreams. There are even times when we are deeply grateful to have been born. These moments are paradise. But paradise is not another realm; it is here, in the very midst of the hell of this world. Other Power, a power that transcends theological distinctions, avails us of these moments. In the endless uncertainties of contemporary life, Other Power confers upon us a flexibility of spirit, an energy to feel joy, and the respite of peace.

I often reread Itsuki's words, never actually finding them "inspirational" in the usual sense, but "true" for me, in my own on-going life, with all my mental health issues, in my own suffering.
helenS · 36-40, F
It's never been any different. Does anyone really think people were more polite, and less aggressive, during the epoch of the ancient Roman Republic? Muahahaha...

What would God say? Well I think he created us the way we are, so he shouldn't be too surprised.
helenS · 36-40, F
@SSDecontrol Yes it was "Caligula" (1979, I think). I watched it together with some friends and it was incredible.
SSDecontrol · 56-60, M
@helenS there should have been scratch n' sniff cards. Put it in smellorama!
caesar7 · 61-69, M
@helenS Never would have thought that Malcolm McDowell and Peter O'Toole would star in a Penthouse movie. It was really hardcore!! I bought the DVD afterwards...😆
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
Perhaps if we stop holding ourselves back by focusing on an outdated book.
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Magenta · F
There is nothing new under the sun , since the beginning of man and time.
God repented that he made man (aka humans), and it grieved him at his heart. Yikes, that says it all.
helenS · 36-40, F
@Magenta If God repented something He did then
(a) He made an error so He isn't perfect;
(b) He isn't omniscient.
@helenS blasphemous H. 😞
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
Oh course there's no hope. God has already said he's going to burn it all down. If you believe that sort of thing.
God doesn't seem to care about what happens on earth or to humans.
No. That is not the purpose of Planet Insanity. "Individual" entities develop the spiritual muscles needed to graduate from earth school. They don't need to come back. It is just a learning opportunity here.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@FlowersNButterflies Who do we learn from? How do we find out from insane people the way to develop spiritual muscles?
@sree251 Everything. Question everything.
There's no hope. Better to just enjoy.
Lostpoet · M
I think governments use religion to divide and conquer real christians and people of faith should know better. Jesus died for everyone's sins and he lead a perfect life showing us the way to eternity in the light of God.
Hope? Oh yes!!!!!

When you place your hope and faith in a God that can not fail, you will always come out on top. No matter how things look, God will be working in your behalf. And in the end, you will spend eternity in his presence and “eye has not seen nor eat heard all the things he has prepared for those that love him”!

And yes a day is coming when Jesus rules all nations from Jerusalem and all nations will live in peace. Even the beast will be at peace with each other and not prey on each other.

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

Isaiah 11:6-9
Adstar · 56-60, M
In this world.. In this faulty flesh.. NOPE i do not have any hope for the things you mentioned..

But if we believe Jesus and trust in the Atonement He secured on the cross that wins for us forgiveness for our sins YEP I have Hope in a perfect eternal future with Jesus.. 👍
BuzzedLightyear · 61-69
it's not like it's new
sree251 · 41-45, M
What do you mean by we? If we are human beings living on Planet Earth, then we go on fighting and name calling. There is a need to find out the truth about life.
Sevendays · M
@sree251 your truth or THE truth? How would anyone ever know what the truth is?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Sevendays
your truth or THE truth? How would anyone ever know what the truth is?

My truth is THE only truth because there is only me that exist. Do you understand what I mean? I don't think so because you are living in an illusion, an untruth that portrays you as a human being among many: 8 billions in a world in which you exist.

See the truth of what you really are, and that truth will set you free of fighting, name-calling, and wars.
Sevendays · M
@sree251 you're the only one in existence?
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Eyeinthesky · 56-60, F
I found comfort in reading Psalm 37:7 (NLT)

7 Be still in the presence of the Lord,
and wait patiently for him to act.
Don’t worry about evil people who prosper
or fret about their wicked schemes.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
We can hope, but human history is pretty much a history of tribalism and aggression, god or no god. Though gods do give people a reason to attack other people.
Simple answer? Nope! Never gona happen
hunkalove · 61-69, M
Your "God" doesn't seem to care.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hunkalove Seems that way but do you care?
Lilymoon · F
Nope 🤷‍♀
Sevendays · M
@Lilymoon it is sad.
Lilymoon · F
@Sevendays it really is
Donotfolowme · 51-55, F
It's sad but I am a F good person. I swear.
Musicman · 61-69, MVIP
Sadly in the recorded history of the world there has only been 65 years of peace on earth where no one was fighting. 😢
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Sevendays · M
@jshm2 you don't think any wars have been saved due to differences in religion?

I'm not stirring anything, just asking a question. Do you need a Snickers bar this morning?

 
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