I hate the atheist movement... even though i don't believe in god(s)

@Vin53 It is if they have websites and offices, solicit donations, sell merchandise and have an agenda.

@SW-User There's an atheism organization?

@Vin53
Non-secularism is. It’s often considered the Atheist agenda.

@Vin53 there is commercials promoting atheism. They have recently popped up as political movements in southern California.

@DeWayfarer Yes. What do you attest to the reason for this?

@DeWayfarer Are you referring to the ones by Reagans kid?

@Vin53 here is the commercial with a explanatory prelude.

[media=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sldB8eUPlC0]

Reason? Republicans at are not conservatives.

@Vin53 exactly!

@DeWayfarer
They promote the separation between church and state. Worth defending.

@DocSavage I can not argue against that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yet it's not the only reason.

@DocSavage not that I am for them, yet any change is better than no change. So I'm putting out the link for them:

https://ffrf.org/

@DeWayfarer
And your point ?

@DocSavage you obviously know of the Reagans.

They are more like the McCain family. Both are conservatives that have fallen out of Republican favors.

I'm not of that conservative type of mind. I can sympathize with them however. Not empathize!

It's why I call myself a realist. Empathy is very real! Even animals exhibit empathy.

@SW-User
Not true. While I’ll agree that Atheism has become more aggressive recently, it’s agenda is not unwarranted.
Religion is also becoming more aggressive. Dear Donald, has been playing up to Christian nationalism recently. Many of his fans like to think America should return to the good Christian beliefs our country was founded on. Despite the fact the constitution says we weren’t.

@DocSavage this is why I can sympathize with this movement.

@Vin53 Many, actually.

@DocSavage You took my meaning out of context. I clearly explained that atheism plays both sides of two important questions about correct cause and correct effect. This renders it not only of limited worth but also an obstacle to learning.

@SW-User
If that learning includes a belief in the supernatural. Then all Atheism does is eliminate a fantasy. Believing a fairytale could be true simply because you can’t explain something is ridiculous.

@DocSavage Atheism doesn't solve anything if it still allows for anything and its opposite to be true- apart from god(s)). I've explained this several times. Starting with an assumption of god(s) or no god(s) automatically sinks any investigation.

@SW-User And what , prey tell, is it you expected from it ? Atheism is a lack or disbelief in god or gods . nothing more. It employs and promotes critical thinking,
It is critical thinking that is used to refine knowledge and information.
You seem to believe, at least on some small level, the supernatural is possible. That clinging to a faith in something which is impossible is noble and practical. It isn’t.

@DocSavage I give up on the possibility of your ever understanding that god(s) vs. no god(s) is the most amateurish and unproductive way to begin an investigation.

@SW-User
Again, an investigation into what ?
You sound like a creationist, insisting that the theory of evolution is false because it denies intelligent design.
It’s not about god or gods. It’s not about disproving a faith based belief. It’s about explaining a natural, and observable phenomenon. The fact that evolution does disprove intelligent design is a result, not the agenda.

@DocSavage A proper investigation juxtaposes proposed causes and effects. Atheism and evolution ultimately fail to elimate creationsim from possibility.

@SW-User
Thank you for debunking your own premise. Once again, I remind you Atheism is the disbelief in god of gods. Evolution by natural selection, is a theory which explains a phenomenon. Creationism is a myth. It has nothing.
It does not tell you anything, it has no evidence, it makes no predictions, and it cannot, and has not ever been observed. In terms of fact and reality, it does not exist.
Knowing what we do know about evolution, why would you continue to entertain the notion that a magical, omnipotent being created the cosmos for some unknowable agenda ? Gods have always been an excuse for what we don’t know, when we grow up and do learn, you want to cling to a fairytale which no longer works. Why ?
Atheist, identify as Atheist to avoid this. There is no need to disprove god, there is just no need to include one either.

@DocSavage Sorry, but your reasoning processes are badly compromised. You've adopted poor definitions and poor methodology to reassure yourself that you're on track to a solution. You're not.