@ShadowSister 😀😀 I thought you are someone who can think and reason. But evidence has been right there all along. Because without spirit or life, body is just a vegetable, which you obviously know. It is the spirit that gives life to the body. So obviously the spirit is masculine. It was wrongly associated with Males, which is the conspiracy part and females were made as feminine. Reason why Males were made as husband (claiming the spirit), and females were made as wife (assigned the body). Thus, the feminine element of Males, and the Spirit or Life element of females were never considered. And the reason why females were made subservient to males, subduing their masculinity. In fact there is enough evidence in history and all scriptures, how females were considered a cattle and slaves.

And I have no clue what is misogynistic or misandrist about this, when I am saying the entire gender promulgation itself is wrong and as humans we have been fooled and misguided. Nowhere did nature say that it has created opposite sexes.

So now you have to tell me what evidence do you have to say that masculinity is exclusive to males and femininity is exclusive to females.

@in10RjFox I would be curious how you define masculine and feminine. Here is how I define them. Similar to language, they are social constructs that we use to communicate our reproductive role. Some is biologically predispositioned, like large muscles being masculine. Some is arbitrarily assigned by individual cultures, such as pink being feminine. And some recognizes tendencies that are often true but not always, such as interest in sports being masculine. Because gender is socially constructed, it is entirely possible for men to be feminine and women to be masculine. Most people are some mix of each.

[quote]It is the spirit that gives life to the body. So obviously the spirit is masculine.[/quote]

The implied proposition in your syllogism is that that which gives life is masculine.

I suspect you have a different definition of what masculine and feminine mean. And that's okay, the same words can mean different things in different contexts. So long as we take the time to define the terms, we can learn to understand one another. And I assume that's what is going on here. Because based on my definitions of masculine and feminine, I find myself completely confused by why you would associate that which gives life with the masculine.

@ShadowSister
[quote]So long as we take the time to define the terms, we can learn to understand one another. [/quote]
This is a good disposition and tone of yours, for it is easy to explain and clear your doubts, as the definition you have has a lot of ambiguity, which you yourself will accept when we analyze. I am no exception to this definition, as this is what we have been preached and made to accept and not to question. Also there is a reason why all this is taught to us in school, before we attain the intellectual maturity to analyze and reason. There is something called a root bug or root error which is the root cause. I am naturally an analyst and I just don't accept anything without analyzing. I don't like beliefs and I analyze and get to know.

Your use of the word "Syllogism" means that you have studied logic as a subject, which is good as most haven't been exposed to this subject.

[quote] I find myself completely confused by why you would associate that which gives life with the masculine[/quote]
I have to step out now, and I shall come back and explain more in detail. But in the meantime, think of Masculine as Software & Feminine as Hardware, and how intangible masculine is & tangible hardware is. I will be back soon.

@TexChik I love it. I envy that. A lot actually. 💜

@in10RjFox Interesting. The nice thing about your view is that it works with anyone regardless of belief system. Anyone can say priors without having to sign on to a specific creed.

@sarabee1995 That would be super cool to re-read that!

I agree that genderless certainly makes more sense. And you've got precedent in Catholic theology, even if it's not the norm.

@ShadowSister This is one of the many issues that I discussed [b] AT LENGTH[/b] with my priest back during undergrad. I drove him crazy.

I'll look for my old statement of beliefs tonight. I think it was during my senior year of high school, so 2013-ish.

@ShadowSister Found it! Here you go:

https://similarworlds.com/6451933-I-Believe/1353218-A-few-of-my-EP-friends-recently-posted-a-statement

@Vengabus That's beautiful!

@LordShadowfire Sweet, so it's not just me! I have really been struggling with getting to point 3 for a very long time.