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Heartily disagree. Contrary to belief, the Bible says not all paths lead to God, and most these days, are making up their OWN rules.
2 Timothy 3:5
“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” Some ever learning, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2 Timothy 3:5
“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” Some ever learning, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace it's different for everyone
@Axeroberts
Jesus said that's the problem. The path to salvation is not up for our interpretation, but by what He said it is for the world...not all parhs lead to salvation. That philosophy,
Jesus said leads to hell.
The question of whether there are more people in heaven or hell is answered by Jesus Himself in one succinct passage: “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it, are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few” (Matthew 7:13–14).
This passage tells us that only those who receive Jesus Christ and who believe in Him, are given the right to become children of God (John 1:12). As such, the gift of eternal life comes only through Jesus Christ to all those who believe.
He said, “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. NO ONE comes to the Father, except through ME ” (John 14:6).
It’s not through other paths or false gods of man’s making. It’s not for those wanting a cheap and easy way to heaven, while continuing to live their own selfish and worldly lives on earth. Jesus only saves those who fully trust in Him as Savior (Acts 4:12). It doesn't take a genius to understand that. There is no other interpretation of that.
I believe there are many paths to Him. But only one that is right for ourself
Jesus said that's the problem. The path to salvation is not up for our interpretation, but by what He said it is for the world...not all parhs lead to salvation. That philosophy,
Jesus said leads to hell.
The question of whether there are more people in heaven or hell is answered by Jesus Himself in one succinct passage: “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it, are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few” (Matthew 7:13–14).
This passage tells us that only those who receive Jesus Christ and who believe in Him, are given the right to become children of God (John 1:12). As such, the gift of eternal life comes only through Jesus Christ to all those who believe.
He said, “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. NO ONE comes to the Father, except through ME ” (John 14:6).
It’s not through other paths or false gods of man’s making. It’s not for those wanting a cheap and easy way to heaven, while continuing to live their own selfish and worldly lives on earth. Jesus only saves those who fully trust in Him as Savior (Acts 4:12). It doesn't take a genius to understand that. There is no other interpretation of that.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace some people think for themselves
@Axeroberts Yes, and they will think themselves right into hell, if they're not careful. That is the most flimsy, poorest, and oldest excuse in the world, for not taking responsibility to accept Jesus's Plan of Salvation as He presented it and meant it to be. There's no two roads or more, to salvation. Jesus made that very plain. There are no different paths that lead to Salvation. If there was, Jesus would have said so, but He said no....there's a way that seems right to man, but the end thereof is spiritual death. Proverbs 14:12. This next verse does not say there are many paths to Christ. Jesus said, "I" an the Way,....
He said, “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. NO ONE comes to the Father, except through ME ” (John 14:6).
He said, “I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. NO ONE comes to the Father, except through ME ” (John 14:6).
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace maybe it works for you and that's great. But many people have a loving relationship with this Creator without religion. We are all different
@Axeroberts
That's still a terrible excuse. It's not about me. Jesus's Plan of Salvation was meant for the whole world. He made that plan because it works and no other way will do, is what HE said, not me. Who better would know than Jesus? Religion has nothing whatsoever to do with salvation. Jesus did not die for a select few in any certain denomination. He died for the sins of the whole world. Jesus said himself that "Whomsoever loves Me, will keep my Commandments." Not some vain, empty religious philosophies or rituals. Following Jesus is a way of life and is a personal, loving relationship with Jesus/God. It's nothing to do with religion or some other "Creator" whom you never name.
maybe it works for you and that's great. But many people have a loving relationship with this Creator without religion. We are all different
That's still a terrible excuse. It's not about me. Jesus's Plan of Salvation was meant for the whole world. He made that plan because it works and no other way will do, is what HE said, not me. Who better would know than Jesus? Religion has nothing whatsoever to do with salvation. Jesus did not die for a select few in any certain denomination. He died for the sins of the whole world. Jesus said himself that "Whomsoever loves Me, will keep my Commandments." Not some vain, empty religious philosophies or rituals. Following Jesus is a way of life and is a personal, loving relationship with Jesus/God. It's nothing to do with religion or some other "Creator" whom you never name.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace you might think it's an excuse but you don't know me. And you don't know how God has worked in my life.
@Axeroberts it doesn't matter what I think. I tell you things from God's Word, not something I made up. But it does matter what Jesus thinks and says.
Who? The one you call "Creator" with no specific name? How can God work in your life, if you're not even willing to acknowledge Him as Creator? If you are not willing to choose His path for salvation?
Who? The one you call "Creator" with no specific name? How can God work in your life, if you're not even willing to acknowledge Him as Creator? If you are not willing to choose His path for salvation?
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace But you choose to believe it. It's still your choice to believe this judgment and salvation is real for you.
@Axeroberts But you keep saying to God, "No there's many paths to salvation... I'll do it my way, not your way.", and that doesn't work for God's Plan of Salvation.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace I never said many paths to salvation. Don't lie
@Axeroberts Don't accuse me of lying. Whether you say many ways to Salvation or many ways to God, it's the same thing.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace not to me. You are lying. Are you so threatened by me that you feel the need to lie? And say words I have never once said and you know it. Show me any link to a post where I said that word.
@Axeroberts
That is so laughable. Threatened by you? Hahaha I never lied and you know it, because you said there are many paths to Christ and I did quote you, so don't you be calling me a liar. You're just wanting to change the subject, that's all. You know God said in His Word that there is not many paths to Him OR Heaven, but you don't want to deal with that, so you make this nonsense excuse that I'm lying. Anything to divert the attention away from the subject.
not to me. You are lying. Are you so threatened by me that you feel the need to lie? And say words I have never once said and you know it. Show me any link to a post where I said that word.
That is so laughable. Threatened by you? Hahaha I never lied and you know it, because you said there are many paths to Christ and I did quote you, so don't you be calling me a liar. You're just wanting to change the subject, that's all. You know God said in His Word that there is not many paths to Him OR Heaven, but you don't want to deal with that, so you make this nonsense excuse that I'm lying. Anything to divert the attention away from the subject.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace I only said there were many paths to God. The Creator. That's it. Live and Let live. Why do my beiefs bother you so much that you feel the need to justify yours by putting words in my mouth. Show me where I ever said Christ or salvation. Until you can show me the link where I said that I would say you have nothing to say. I don't like liars.
Axeroberts · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace and you are doing it to try and justify your position. Are you of weak faith ?
@Axeroberts
Not trying to justify anything. The Words of Christ do not need justifying. They are what He says they are...Truth. Only quoting God's Word that you are ignoring, when it comes to many paths to Christ. All monotheistic religions do NOT point to the same Creator.
and you are doing it to try and justify your position. Are you of weak faith ?
Not trying to justify anything. The Words of Christ do not need justifying. They are what He says they are...Truth. Only quoting God's Word that you are ignoring, when it comes to many paths to Christ. All monotheistic religions do NOT point to the same Creator.