Skewed beliefs

Although we all have our beliefs some beliefs seem to be based on what other people say. I find this leads to people saying things like the man in the sky. Or thinking about god as strictly a supernatural being. Like a magical being. These beliefs make it impossible to even believe in any kind of Creator. But could it be what some people want so they don't really have to consider the possibility.

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SDavis · 56-60, F

A thousand years ago an airplane, radio, cell phone etc - any of the technology of today would have been considered magical.

But the word is not magical the word is supernatural. And to see something occurring that is not natural to man makes it supernatural - not magical.

The ancient people were not stupid, some may even say they were more sensible than People of today. The difference is increased knowledge, people today have more technology - technology which is leading to our possible demise and destruction of the Earth, in more ways than one or two.

And with the ancient people all the way around the world / different cultures, one thing is the same whatever God they serve came from the sky.

So I have a question:: what are the things that the intelligent people of this highly technological world today are seeing flying around in the skies, that cannot be explained, that defies the laws of gravity and anything that man himself can do.
Example
https://youtu.be/ZBtMbBPzqHY

https://youtu.be/rO_M0hLlJ-Q

https://youtu.be/UKS5Sc4a-Lc

And There is Plenty More _ seemingly scared Trump into initiating Space Force

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SDavis · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts well all the people I've talked to actually don't believe in a created. And how could stopping the Earth from spinning being any less than creating the entire visible universe from nothing or any other supernatural event spoken of in the Bible.

Since you say that's the type of thing that turns people away from believing in a creator

People don't believe in the flood - maybe you don't either.

People don't believe Jesus fed 5,000 people with five fish and two loaves of bread - maybe you don't believe that either

And they surely don't believe he rose anybody from the dead or any of his prophets and definitely don't believe he rose from the dead but maybe you don't either. And there is many more

Far too fantastic -

Yet the same people can believe before the Big Bang Singularity *nothing* existed and everything visible came from that. But God can't create from *nothing*.

Yet people can believe that life here on Earth either came from space on a asteroid as living bacteria or it sprung up spontaneously. What they refer to as panspermia or abiogenesis. Even though scientists at one point had no idea where the RNA came from _ which without it life couldn't exist. Now they say it to either came from space or it sprung up spontaneously. But the entity we call God couldn't *exist* in space - exist means life.

So forth and so on.

I've been reading that even *these* days those who profess to be Christians don't believe in all of the Bible, some Christians now even feel Jesus was a prophet, they don't believe he was the son of God just a man, and some Christians now believe Jesus is not the only way to heaven.

So either one believe the Bible or one don't. To say I believe this part and don't believe the other - well that is a reason why atheist and others from the outside don't recognize Christianity.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@SDavis but people don't always need the bible to believe in a Creator of vast intelligence and knowledge who created the universe. A nondenominational all inclusive living Being. And not one where the belief's are told to us. People need to use their rational minds and find this Creator in themselves. Not to say that the religion in general isn't a valid path to Him but there are other paths just as valid that also lead to this Creator

SDavis · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts I didn't say people need the Bible to believe. I said either people believe the Bible or they don't. Before there was such a thing as books, scrolls, written tablets, ancient people believed around the world in various name gods - all of which performed extraordinary things and quite frankly as far as we know could have been the same God or leaders of fallen angels.

And if people don't believe that the Creator can stop the Earth from turning, or flood the Earth with water, or raise the Dead, etc etc etc _ then they will have a problem with accepting the Creator creating.

And who is this Creator you're speaking of that other paths can lead to? Are you a spiritualist, a Buddhist, Hinduist, belief in the existence of any of the Oriental gods, other?

From my perspective the Bible says God's holy spirit resides in us _ those that accept the spirit, the spirit will work within _ those that reject the spirit the spirit departs from them. So each individual can have or has had the capability of knowing the Creator _ they either accepted him or rejected him.

SW-User

It does seem that many take their lead from Biblical literalists (which in many ways is a fairly modern way of understanding the Bible) and thus the God they do not believe in (😀) is only a caricature of any possible supreme Being/Source.

Thomas Merton offers a more "intellectual" analysis/explanation of all this in an essay "The New Consciousness" contained in his book "Zen and the Birds of Appetite:-

[i]Cartesian thought[/i] (i.e. "I think therefore I am" ) [i]began with an attempt to reach God as object by starting from the thinking self. But when God becomes object, he sooner or later “dies,” because God as object is ultimately unthinkable. God as object is not only a mere abstract concept, but one which contains so many internal contradictions that it becomes entirely non-negotiable except when it is hardened into an idol that is maintained in existence by a sheer act of will.[/i]

Anyway, whatever, here a depiction of The Old Man in the Sky" concept of God.....