Skewed beliefs

@SW-User but you kind of prove my point. Other people's beliefs instead of developing your own

@Axeroberts I'm a non-theist. I'm merely surmising how others may think, and the reasons why - always a bit of a fool's game I admit.

@Axeroberts well all the people I've talked to actually don't believe in a created. And how could stopping the Earth from spinning being any less than creating the entire visible universe from nothing or any other supernatural event spoken of in the Bible.

Since you say that's the type of thing that turns people away from believing in a creator

People don't believe in the flood - maybe you don't either.

People don't believe Jesus fed 5,000 people with five fish and two loaves of bread - maybe you don't believe that either

And they surely don't believe he rose anybody from the dead or any of his prophets and definitely don't believe he rose from the dead but maybe you don't either. And there is many more

Far too fantastic -

Yet the same people can believe before the Big Bang Singularity *nothing* existed and everything visible came from that. But God can't create from *nothing*.

Yet people can believe that life here on Earth either came from space on a asteroid as living bacteria or it sprung up spontaneously. What they refer to as panspermia or abiogenesis. Even though scientists at one point had no idea where the RNA came from _ which without it life couldn't exist. Now they say it to either came from space or it sprung up spontaneously. But the entity we call God couldn't *exist* in space - exist means life.

So forth and so on.

I've been reading that even *these* days those who profess to be Christians don't believe in all of the Bible, some Christians now even feel Jesus was a prophet, they don't believe he was the son of God just a man, and some Christians now believe Jesus is not the only way to heaven.

So either one believe the Bible or one don't. To say I believe this part and don't believe the other - well that is a reason why atheist and others from the outside don't recognize Christianity.

@SDavis but people don't always need the bible to believe in a Creator of vast intelligence and knowledge who created the universe. A nondenominational all inclusive living Being. And not one where the belief's are told to us. People need to use their rational minds and find this Creator in themselves. Not to say that the religion in general isn't a valid path to Him but there are other paths just as valid that also lead to this Creator

@Axeroberts I didn't say people need the Bible to believe. I said either people believe the Bible or they don't. Before there was such a thing as books, scrolls, written tablets, ancient people believed around the world in various name gods - all of which performed extraordinary things and quite frankly as far as we know could have been the same God or leaders of fallen angels.

And if people don't believe that the Creator can stop the Earth from turning, or flood the Earth with water, or raise the Dead, etc etc etc _ then they will have a problem with accepting the Creator creating.

And who is this Creator you're speaking of that other paths can lead to? Are you a spiritualist, a Buddhist, Hinduist, belief in the existence of any of the Oriental gods, other?

From my perspective the Bible says God's holy spirit resides in us _ those that accept the spirit, the spirit will work within _ those that reject the spirit the spirit departs from them. So each individual can have or has had the capability of knowing the Creator _ they either accepted him or rejected him.

@TheWildEcho i know. No wonder they don't believe in anything 😆

@jshm2 sometimes 😆

@CorvusBlackthorne lame