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My Gay friend is suicidal

Hello everyone. My gay friend was infected with Aids from his ex boyfriend and he has been takinh RVs for the last 6years. Life hasnt been so easy for him since everyone is avoiding him and there has been times when he wants to commit suicide because he thinks his life has ended. And people always talk bad about him. I told him to move in with us and i cant tell my family that his infected. Sometimes he doesnt what yo eat food. Any advice on how to change his life so that he can know that he can live for long and he how to tell him not to miss taking his drugs. And why do people hate infected people.
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AuRevoir · 36-40, M
It's simply the same stigma people were putting on covid people...

Aids is a disease that you can catch from another person's bodily fluids... And unlike covid that would go away, it's something that if you caught it. Would stay with you forever. So idk your friends actual social life so I can't speak for what people are saying about him and if they actually hate him or not..

But people are likely to avoid the infected people the same way the avoid and exhibit paranoia towards anyone with covid.

His life isn't over but in a way it's crippled.

There are dating sites specifically designed for people with similar limiting STD's to date or make friends on...

Encourage him to maybe join Amino or other chat sites for social circles to start getting himself involved in.

As far as inviting him over like that without telling people.. If they found out and could possibly blow up on him that could make him feel even worse, and possibly push him over the edge... So I'd second guess on whether it's the safest bet... and be thorough in your evaluation.. If you can guarantee no one would find out then that would be a different story.. kind of a double edged sword situation but maybe helping him is better than nothing...

In a way his old life may be over... He's going through the 5 stages of grief... And the old may be over, but he needs to get focused on what will be new.. Once they finally accept that, they can have some semblance of hope for what will be... He needs to let go of those who will disrespect him and accept that there are others out there with similar hardships who he could meet that would encourage him and be better for him instead.
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir I have to object strongly to your comparison with Covid. Covid spreads easily through airbone infection while in order to catch HIV people would need to have sex or receive blood from the infected person. There is no reason to avoid HIV positive people.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@FragileHeart You're young (Assuming your profile is set to an accurate age discription) so you clearly don't understand the stigmatism that happened when HIV and AIDS first came into the world...

The way they reacted towards people with HIV and AIDS is the same exact way people treated covid... Everyone was scared to get it, they didn't understand it, They didn't know how it spread. Even song lyrics were made about it... "You might catch AIDS from the slight cold.." And people avoided everyone and freaked out on anyone that had it.

And aids is not airborne but is still passed through bodily fluids. And people can be germaphobes with even regular hygienic practices and not want to be around someone with AIDS... Which is what people would do if they knew someone had covid.

And again Covid will go away on it's own. Whereas AIDS will not. It will stay forever, and is permanent, if that were not the case her friend would not be suicidal and not have any emotional distress of feeling as if his life is already completely over as he does now.

If you want to know how society treated aids and its victims, watch an actual documentary on how they treated people with it, and compare and contrast it with how they would treat someone with covid. They avoid both completely.

You're confusing the here and now with my example of how it was first released into the world within the original time period and how the fear mongering was the same.
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir Oh no I do know all about the history of HIV and about AIDS as an illness.
It lead to anti-gay propaganda and was classified as a gay only illness at first.

People being avoided cause they have Covid should have the decency to just sit out their infection since it's temporary and airbone spread while you can't get HIV without having sex or coming in touch with someone elses blood.
Munirah256 · F
@AuRevoir here in my country its so worse. Aids people are treated so bad and if one anyone knows that you ate infected everyone will know.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@FragileHeart if you were aware of it then you were making your previous comment because you’re being an ass or what? Your two comments underneath my post are now in contradiction of one another… 👀☕️ Yeaaahhh that doesn’t make sense boo..
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir You are the one being direspectful comparing the discrimination against gay people had to endure back then to measures against the covid pandemic and people avoiding others infected with covid cause they know it's airbone spread and temporary and also it concerns anyone and didn't create a witch hunt.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@FragileHeart once again you’re contradicting yourself…

Hahahahaha! 😂 You clearly don’t know how it was back then… I thought so.. 👀🥤 dude pretending to have knowledge about something just makes you look REAAAALLLLYYYY and extremely stupid, if you can’t follow the line of example I gave, then you clearly have not researched any of it nor is what I said disrespectful at all towards any gays… You sir are just being dumb and pretending you have higher intelligence than what you have.. 👀☕️ Alright, shoo fly, don’t bother me..
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir Gosh you are a piece of shit snowflake probably thinking people who are covid positive are being discriminated against? 🤦‍♀️
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir compare it to monkeypox if you will but the Covid comparison doesn't fit.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@FragileHeart Lol… 😂☕️ Please give an example about what part I’m being a snowflake on… 😂☕️ Is English not your first language? 😂☕️ Do you not even know how to use terms of ridicule properly either??

😂☕️ You’re trying waaayyy too hard to prove you know what you’re talking about while each post you make only follows your own skewed context, and you still have NO IDEA… 😂☕️ What I have actually SAID!

But no go on… 👀☕️ Tell ME, what have I said?

Tell the WHOLE class now… 👀☕️ Since you want to consistently persist on speaking for me… Break down my point of view, even though I’ve already told you multiple times now that your interpretation of what I said is wrong, thus proving you have zero knowledge as to what I’m referencing… Break it down in simple terms.. and let everyone know, oh wise one.. 👀☕️
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir [quote]It's simply the same stigma people were putting on covid people...
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It's not. The HIV stigma focused on queer people and was used to discriminate while people who have Covid might be shunned for the time they have it they should also have the self awareness to just isolate till its over.

Reading your replies you seem angry i disagree so you act like a snowflake
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@FragileHeart again using your interpretation instead of what happened in the history books…

It is the same exact stigma… “avoid at all costs”
“They will get you sick if you’re around them” “They have something you definitely don’t want to catch” “We refuse to work around anyone that has it..” 😂 You clearly don’t know what aids was like in society when it was first RELEASED… 😂 otherwise you’d see all the very clear and very obvious similarities being made between the two..

And oh yes.. 👀☕️ Such angry eyes emoji’s.. 👀☕️ Such an angry cup of tea emoji… 😂 such an angry laughing face emoji… 😂 How ever will my replies contain all their rage??

Your tangent is based off the here and now, in the distant future of 2023, as if everything that ever occurred with it, the way it was dealt, and the way it was handled, was as it is now…

Fact. They had no idea what aids first was… They did not know if it could be spread through the air or not! 😂 or if it came from an outside source in the world, but they told people to avoid others with it.. at all costs because for all they knew, being around someone who coughed, could spread it to another person… It was a new disease in the world. And they had to discover why it was spreading, how it was spreading, who it was spreading to etc.. etc… it wasn’t a history book.. giving you all the answers.. 😂 it was them living in real life time with a deadly VIRUS… Key word there.. And knowing nothing about it at the time… Science had not even come to the point that using someone’s DNA on the scene of a crime had been used in court yet… So again.. 👀☕️ Tell me how none of this, correlates to the same sociological effects, with the reactions people had with coronavirus… And how “wrong” I am.. that it was never treated with the same reactions?

Snowflake, snowflake, now let’s explain that word real quick..

Snowflake" is a derogatory slang term for a person, implying that they have an inflated sense of uniqueness, an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

So let’s see, you automatically, read my post online, you view internally that my opinion is different than yours, you thusly can not keep it to yourself, and begin to become offended that my opinion is different than yours.. and begin typing out how you disagree with me! Underneath MY POST! 👀☕️ And then you become overly emotional.. and persist to call me “snowflake” all the while the blatant irony of your screen name being called “Fragile Heart” 😂☕️ I just can’t with you.. 😂☕️ The irony is too delicious.. so *Ahem* listen here snowflake.. 👀☕️ You getting hog and bothered underneath someone else’s posts with your knee jerk reactions.. 😂☕️ Is what a snowflake actually is.. 😂☕️ Otherwise you never would have been upset with my differing “opinions” 😂 even though all I was referring to was the same level of fear mongering that was associated with the disease itself known as aids, and it’s clear cut similarities with the disease known as the coronavirus.. 😂 in no way was associating stigmatizes based on gay groups.. that was your own distinction that YOU chose to make.. and incorrectly apply, to a context that was in no way made in part by my references of AIDS and it’s initial discovery, and impact on the world.. 😂 So again, you were basically having an argument with no one, other than yourself, as you were not even in the same boat as me… I’m talking about the disease itself, it’s origins, and it’s societal impact… You’re talking about a group of humans and their personal history with said disease.. 😂 which is a completely separate category of the topic… I focused on aids, you decided to focus on gays.. 😂 Now I’d you learn to one day follow the differences between context, similarities, and distinctions.. You might be able to have much better online interactions.. instead of just being an actual snowflake who keeps trying to tell me I’m wrong, when the topic is boxing, but you’re over here in the lightweight categories, and I’m over here in the heavyweight section.. 👀☕️ Wondering why the hell you don’t know how to follow through in understanding how things are compartmentalized.. 👀☕️

Alright, I made my point, bravo, you got me to explain absolutely thoroughly, congratulations, slow clap, next time actually research and do your homework instead of simply saying you understand a subject when your blatant lack of follow through and understanding is too obvious to the one you’re engaging in such discourse with.. Ta-Ta! 😂🍿
FragileHeart · 22-25, M
@AuRevoir 🖕😘
I stick to it not being comparable since Aids was immediately tied on a group of people. You can't seperate Aids from queer history it's connected unfortunately.
The rest is a bunch of bla bla cause you got so triggered.