Bro, I figured out why the older chicks here are so grumpy

@SW-User
Gosh - I don't know who you're meeting or how.
There's some truth in what you say.

But in a nationwide emotional health survey, Australia discovered that it's happiest citizens are single women over 55 living in small country towns and villages - places where there's strong community.

After my father died, my mother never wanted another man.
I don't blame her.
Their marriage lasted 15 years; only the first 4 were happy.
By the time he died, she'd passed menopause, had her own inheritance and independence, became freer, happier and better able to express herself.

Once women have become independent and lowering hormones have crashed their libido, quite a few do decide that they don't need a man. But not all.

In the rural area where I live, the population is 52% women, with 22.2% over 65.
There are a fair number of women over 50 and single. Many of these are completely content being single, and have good networks of friends.
However, there's a small number who would still like to meet a man of similar or slightly older age to be a life companion into old age. They're looking for someone healthy and emotionally mature who shares at least a few similar interests, beliefs, values and tastes.
Those requirements mean that older people need to be proactive to find each other - otherwise they'll miss out.

@hartfire A recent study peddled in the media recently was used to paint a grim picture for "lonely men". What they (Media ) failed to note in that same study, was that women's prospects dwindled significantly with age while men's prospects got far better with age. If women are happy single good for them. I don't understand the animosity around men enjoying their elder years with younger more beautiful women.

@SW-User age doesn’t turn us into incels. I was bitter towards men before I even entered my twenties because all you know how to do is groom young women and teenage girls.

@SW-User I also don’t know why men are surprised that women also want to be valued further than our looks and beauty. Aging shouldn’t be shameful and men enforce it should be for us. In my teens I vowed to never be with man who spoke about women this way because what happens when I get old? I’m going to be replaced with a younger woman. So why invest my time?

@SW-User I have a problem with old men enjoying their years with younger women because it sucks being their target.

@SW-User it’s also a very bad life trying to exist for the male gaze. It’s stressful and toxic for us. Trust me, older men are NOT attractive to anyone. They’re only useful for the money and contacts they can give young women. It’s all about the assets with younger women who like old men. No money =/= no young women

@SW-User you also forgot to mention that most studies find that overall female happiness increases past the age of 40. They’re happy and fine.

My issue with older men as well is they tend to go after the easy manipulated. I [b]never[/b] seen an age gap relationships where the man was older and not abusive.

@MorbidCynic [quote]age doesn’t turn us into incels. I was bitter towards men before I even entered my twenties because all you know how to do is groom young women and teenage girls.[/quote]

Imcel means involuntarily celibate so yes age does make women incels because aging makes women less sexually desirable. I try to use words as they are intended, not as a catchphrase for everyone I don't like. That said, if you were a young man using that language you would definitely be dismissed as an incels by those that use the term for undesirable men, because apparently men are not allowed to be bitter about female behavior.

@SW-User there is an entire multimillion dollar porn industry for cougars and milfs, obviously they aren’t that undesirable.

Incel has certain connotations. Typical when the other person is violent or hateful about being celibate.

I never said men can’t be bitter. I don’t think an eye for an eye response is best. Insulting a group of people for simply aging is unnecessary and hurtful to women of all ages.

I became obsessed with anti aging and beauty since I was 15. I’m 26 now it’s driven me mad and is very toxic. You’re not just hurting older women when you perpetuate these views. You hurt all women and girls, because these views are pushed on us since childhood and has negative mental health effects.

@MorbidCynic [quote]It’s all about the assets with younger women who like old men. No money =/= no young women[/quote]

And there you have it. Rules for thee and not for me? Why not desire men beyond what they can provide instead of pocket gazing men?

@SW-User I’m telling you why younger women allow older men to be with them. I never said it was okay and I always encourage young women to base their value outside of male praise because it doesn’t last. Once you get past 30, all the energy you spent pleasing men is a waste because they’ll just throw you away.

@MorbidCynic [quote]there is an entire multimillion dollar porn industry for cougars and milfs, obviously they aren’t that undesirable.[/quote] My dear, porn sells everything under the sun, that doesn't translate in the real world.

[quote]Incel has certain connotations. Typical when the other person is violent or hateful about being celibate.[/quote]

Like old bitter broads hating the fact older man have relationships with younger woman ? Yes I agree.

[quote]never said men can’t be bitter. I don’t think an eye for an eye response is best. Insulting a group of people for simply aging is unnecessary and hurtful to women of all ages.[/quote]

I'm talking about the broader society not you personally. And this idea that you can have a laugh at young men struggling through life and then think they won't take joy in your demise when the time comes and they are financially in a better position is silly.

"If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"

That's basic human nature.

I'm going to leave it at that I've engaged in enough of these conversations to know where it leads. Good luck.

@SW-User I’ve seen many older women get into relationships, so it’s not from my observation, true. Older men don’t really appeal to younger women physically or mentally, either.

No, I don’t think it’s bitter. It’s discomfort. I’m 26 and am uncomfortable with the idea of men being someone half their age. I felt that way as a teenager too. It feels predatory and gross

When did I laugh at young men struggling?

Why does age mean I’m less financially stable? Do older women lose their job too? Lol

And I am talking about how it effects all women negatively. None of this healthy for men or women. It’s toxic. Aging should not be shameful, it’s NATURAL.

@SW-User at least have the courtesy to actually address my issues with how toxic this mindset is for society. You ignored that.

@SW-User out of curiosity, how old are you?

@MorbidCynic old enough to date women in their 20s

@SW-User No, answer my question with the numerical value of the amount time passed since you were born.

Also, what do you think of the negative mental health tolls this has on all women? I became beauty obsessed as a teenager. It’s cost me so much money and sanity, the development of anorexia as well.

@SW-User my dad is 44. Are you older or younger than him?