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BohoBabe · M
Could there be a connection between the two, and if so, would this explain why so many of them are just SO completely clueless when it comes to... you know, not being a jerk and offending those who believe in God?

It's socially acceptable to make fun of people for believing in stupid things. The one exception is religion, that's the acceptable insanity.
So it's not that Atheists are being jerks. It's that we're being consistent.

th3r0n · 41-45, M
Seems unlikely, it seems I was born autistic and I believe strongly in God and have seen things that can't be dismissed

Autism isn't a condition where the brain is different, it's a damage condition where the complex process memory that's supposed to be passed down genetically is entirely wiped out, so autistic people don't have the "human programming" and have to build programming themselves to function

Not having that programming winds up being clueless in dealing with normal people who are programmed to express themselves in certain ways and mostly understand those ways, while such programming doesn't exist in autistic people at all
Pambie · 26-30, F
@th3r0n That's an interesting perspective, and one that also (thankfully) treats this topic with the detachment it deserves. Too many people become "triggered" by suggestions like this, and I have to wonder why, because isn't autism now seen as being just another way to be by the majority of people who study it and those who have it?
Speaking from personal experience, I've known people like this, and they are very straightforward and abrupt, which isn't necessarily "rude", but the majority see it that way. What's worse is that when someone is online, all of the other cues that one would normally see (ex. body language) are also absent, and a person can come across as being aggressive too.
I've also used 'Reddit', and seen what happens on sites like that where people who are either atheists or have autism (or both) like to congregate. I was banned twice from the site for simply expressing views they didn't like over there.
th3r0n · 41-45, M
@Pambie it's a damage condition purely, think of your brain as a self upgrading biological computer

You start with the operating system passed down to you (process memories and the like, as well as how thoughts work and thought processes, and how to read and express emotion and thoughts), but those neural pathways composed of neurons and synapses were destroyed or somehow obscured so they don't get used or can't be (it varies, apparently extreme trauma as an infant or close to it can cause it too that's why I mentioned being obscured) so the computer has bios but no operating system

It's self upgrading same as anyone though, so autistic people basically have to adapt and write programs that run in their brains to be functional, because the default programming, even the learning methods and application methods aren't there

This is also why only the very intelligent autistic people wind up high functioning, a person of average intelligence starting with nothing is in a BAD position, and less than average it gets worse

Analyze these things against all the things you've experienced with autistics and suddenly your experiences will make far more sense
Just turn that question round: "Could there be a connection between having a religious belief and autism". If you think such a question is "offensive", could it not mean your OP is offensive. Not least to people who are autistic.
Pambie · 26-30, F
@jackieash And you clearly have not read the article, because it actually contradicts your claim that there's no possible or known link.
@Pambie You sound offended. If you are why are you?
@Pambie And there is no link.
“When people say they are atheists they don’t mean they can prove that there are no gods. Strictly speaking, it’s impossible to prove that something does not exist. We don’t positively know there are no gods,”
― Richard Dawkins, Outgrowing God: A Beginner's Guide
AbstractWave · 61-69, M
In what way has someone with Autism offended you personally in connection with your religious beliefs? How have autistic individuals interfered with your ability to practice your religious beliefs?
Richard65 · M
Those who believe in God usually seek to control the lives of other people and are judgemental. Athiests just wish to live their lives without being lectured by people who believe in a mythological being who they take orders from. Those people used to stone non believers like me to death. Just because I didn't believe. So, on the contrary, atheists are usually highly intelligent people who just see through the fallacy and danger of organised religion.
Pambie · 26-30, F
@Richard65 Okay, which Christian countries? When? What century?
Contrary to popular belief (and Hollywood), "burning at the stake" was incredibly rare, even during times when the nations of Europe weren't particularly tolerant of those who refused to conform.
As for stoning, well I can't think of a time when this was a practice that was carried out in any Christian nation. It's mentioned in the Old Testament, so perhaps it happened way back then, but recently? Within the last thousand years or so?
P.S. And I just realised I made an unintentional joke. Stake (steak) incredibly rare. Ah, don't you just love English? 😂
Richard65 · M
@Pambie yes, I like your joke. You said I was being melodramatic but then agreed stoning and burning did take place. Who do you think forced such practices to stop? The religious fundamentalists? The Bible advocates for slavery, murder and the treatment of women as chattel. And Christians believe the Bible to be the actual Word of God, so God agrees with slavery, murder and the treatment of women as chattel. So you can't hide behind timescales.
Pambie · 26-30, F
@Richard65 Wait a minute, no, I didn't agree with you that stoning happened in Christian countries. I said that it perhaps happened in Old Testament times, which was pre-Christian.
And I've read the Bible, and even though I don't agree with it most of the time, I can see the good in it too. And besides, I'm not actually a Christian, even though I can understand why many people are.
And getting back to the original topic, the article I linked was about the connection (or apparent connection) between atheism and autism. It has nothing to do with Christianity per se. Atheists don't believe in any Gods/gods, not just the monotheistic ones like the God of Judaism or Christianity.
Pambie · 26-30, F
@Pambie no, the way you worded it. It’s an oversimplification and generalisation. Sure there are rude atheists but there are also rude religious people.
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I think there is a connection. One explanation is that autistics can have difficulty mentalizing something they can't see, but what I've noticed is atheism is reductive and sometimes autism is too

 
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