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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, you have not read the latest news on the cosmic microwave background radiation, it proves God exists as the permanent self-existent creator and operator of everythig that is not God Himself.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@yrger
As I´ve said, I´m not an atheist. But your behaviour here promotes atheism.
That is, if having faith necessarily implies the kin dand grade of ignorance about Science that @yrger shows no one with a basic understanding of our Universe would be tempted to belog to your crowd.
Please don´t make refference to research in Physics being evident that you know nothing about.
As I´ve said, I´m not an atheist. But your behaviour here promotes atheism.
That is, if having faith necessarily implies the kin dand grade of ignorance about Science that @yrger shows no one with a basic understanding of our Universe would be tempted to belog to your crowd.
Please don´t make refference to research in Physics being evident that you know nothing about.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@DocSavage
He seems to be one having less elaborated intellectual resources between the crowd with the same "mission". His "post and go" is not alike some bots with a limmited repertoire of reactions.
Anyhow almost all of them have a basic set of assumptions that are not exclusive of religious minds.
The most characteristic is that the subjective precedes the things in themselves, an old philosophic branch.
A bit like what once was Vitalism in Biology, some noumen / inmaterial "principle" (Life) that makes things be what they are. It of course entails the use of word based "kinds" like Being and others alike.
That´s why they implicitelly insist in the "interpretation" of phenomena (which implies to understand something mind-like) but resist to explain (what put instead focus in the causal).
You can trace almost the same also in some other relativelly more educated users of same group.
He seems to be one having less elaborated intellectual resources between the crowd with the same "mission". His "post and go" is not alike some bots with a limmited repertoire of reactions.
Anyhow almost all of them have a basic set of assumptions that are not exclusive of religious minds.
The most characteristic is that the subjective precedes the things in themselves, an old philosophic branch.
A bit like what once was Vitalism in Biology, some noumen / inmaterial "principle" (Life) that makes things be what they are. It of course entails the use of word based "kinds" like Being and others alike.
That´s why they implicitelly insist in the "interpretation" of phenomena (which implies to understand something mind-like) but resist to explain (what put instead focus in the causal).
You can trace almost the same also in some other relativelly more educated users of same group.
DocSavage · M
@ElRengo
I’ve see the routine before watching a debate with Richard Dawkins. The theist he was up against, saw nothing wrong with having no evidence for god. As long as there was nothing conclusive to disprove god. Yrger is trying the same thing, by denying anything other than our own existence of a creator.
I’ve see the routine before watching a debate with Richard Dawkins. The theist he was up against, saw nothing wrong with having no evidence for god. As long as there was nothing conclusive to disprove god. Yrger is trying the same thing, by denying anything other than our own existence of a creator.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
@DocSavage
True my friend.
Anyhow I was pointing to another source of the same, a one shared by various classic schools of thought regardless the specific religious debate.
If you can scratch the appearances you´ll see the same as almost autonomous from theology.
As some that not being theists theorize that behind materiality and in the Beginining there was.....Math! (or some other updated Plato-like "pattern").
One of the predecesors of Science as we know it, Leonardo, debated the validity of use of the word "raggioni" (reason for) traditionally equated with causation by those times neo platonists that were not even theological thinkers.
Just saying.......
True my friend.
Anyhow I was pointing to another source of the same, a one shared by various classic schools of thought regardless the specific religious debate.
If you can scratch the appearances you´ll see the same as almost autonomous from theology.
As some that not being theists theorize that behind materiality and in the Beginining there was.....Math! (or some other updated Plato-like "pattern").
One of the predecesors of Science as we know it, Leonardo, debated the validity of use of the word "raggioni" (reason for) traditionally equated with causation by those times neo platonists that were not even theological thinkers.
Just saying.......