Rational intelligent thinking brings man to the God of nature.

There are three ways man comes to know God exists:
1. By reasoning
2. By reading the Bible (for Muslims, the Koran)
3. By meditation

I come to know God exists by num 1 i.e. reasoning, but it is the God of nature, that means that God created everything that man encounters in nature, and that by man's natural reason and intelligence.

What about you atheists? You should be able to come to the God of nature, because you have from nature the faculty of reason and of intelligence.

The explanation why you deny even the God of nature to exist, is because you are not natural but un-natural.

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You Doc say: "Assume for the moment that there is no god, it all myth.
Is the universe, with all its infinite wonder and life any less incredible ?

On that assumption from you, I tell you that ultimately you are claiming that the unverse came from nothingness.

Supposing that ultimately there is no permanent self-existent creator of everything that not independently existing, then we would not be here discussing God exists or not.

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Atheist to theist, answer this simple question : Assume for the moment that there is no god, it all myth.
Is the universe, with all its infinite wonder and life any less incredible ?

DocSavage · M

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That is exactly what I’m saying. You seem to be having a problem with the idea that something can self exist. As I have repeatedly said. God is a catalyst .if the universe was a self existing singularity, something caused it to expand. There no need for that something to be permanent. Nor for it to be living and self aware. You claim your nature god is different from the traditional supernatural gods, of myth and legends ( real or not ) but can you really think outside the box ? Or are you just too afraid to imagine we’re on our own ? That there’s no one at the driving wheel ?
I’m not. I enjoy it.