Why the biblical atheist deny God exists.

Hi atheists, tell me why you deny God exists, of course you have to first define what is God.

I am Yrger the theist, and here is my definition of God:
"God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."

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DocSavage · M

yrger/Loser

Hi Doc, you are still bound to the biblical atheists' God of the Bible, so you are not connected with me, I am into the God as man with reason and intelligence knows Him to exist

You seem to be obsessed with the idea, that rest of us are biblical Atheists. That our concept of god comes from that old book of fables.
Would you mind, clearing up, exactly what powers of creation your god used to do the job ?
The biblical god essentially willed everything into existence. Creating everything all at once more or less. Matter, gravity, the laws of physics, time and life . Apparently to accomplish some agenda. Which means preconceived plans for event in a future before time even existed. All of which means god is all powerful and all knowing and all controlling. In short, he is everything.
Now, if your god created the universe , including life. And is control of it all. How did he do it without the same powers and abilities ?
So far, you have refused to explain what your god’s motives are for creation and life ? You simply say he did it. You also say he invented love,
You refuse to go into morality as or any of the standard reasons religion has to offer. So what does that leave us ?
1) a single , spirit , self existing for no rational purpose
2) Has no knowledge of time or space. No awareness of anything outside its own ego.
3) somehow , decides to manufacture a universe, with powers of unknown nature, and origin. Which is literally the exact opposite of itself.
4) Makes the universe of infinite size, creating galaxies, stars, and planets. In which at least one has the capacity for human life. The others serve no practical use , and humans can’t interact with them.
5) it takes billions of years before life to become possible, and millions more for it to evolve to human form. Still no agenda known.
6) god still controls everything, and everyone. But, has no direct contact with creation. Or foreseeable future use for us before or after death.
7) No pattern, No motivation, No reason, No logic, No purpose, and No evidence of any of it.
It’s like, something came from nothing for no other reason to support your personal ignorance. You created god yourself. Just as I said.
No other possible answer.

So, how does this work for you ?
P.S. the Biblical god doesn’t fair any better.

yrger · 80-89, M

@DocSavage

Hi Doc, you were definitely in past history a fundamentalist Bible Christian.

Your long list of what the Bible God did, gives the lie away.

DocSavage · M
yrger/Loser
Hi Doc, you are still bound to the biblical atheists' God of the Bible, so you are not connected with me, I am into the God as man with reason and intelligence knows Him to exist -Yrger

You seem to be obsessed with the idea, that rest of us are biblical Atheists. That our concept of god comes from that old book of fables.
Would you mind, clearing up, exactly what powers of creation your god used to do the job ?
The biblical god essentially willed everything into existence. Creating everything all at once more or less. Matter, gravity, the laws of physics, time and life . Apparently to accomplish some agenda. Which means preconceived plans for event in a future before time even existed. All of which means god is all powerful and all knowing and all controlling. In short, he is everything.
Now, if your god created the universe , including life. And is control of it all. How did he do it without the same powers and abilities ?
So far, you have refused to explain what your god’s motives are for creation and life ? You simply say he did it. You also say he invented love,
You refuse to go into morality as or any of the standard reasons religion has to offer. So what does that leave us ?
1) a single , spirit , self existing for no rational purpose
2) Has no knowledge of time or space. No awareness of anything outside its own ego.
3) somehow , decides to manufacture a universe, with powers of unknown nature, and origin. Which is literally the exact opposite of itself.
4) Makes the universe of infinite size, creating galaxies, stars, and planets. In which at least one has the capacity for human life. The others serve no practical use , and humans can’t interact with them.
5) it takes billions of years before life to become possible, and millions more for it to evolve to human form. Still no agenda known.
6) god still controls everything, and everyone. But, has no direct contact with creation. Or foreseeable future use for us before or after death.
7) No pattern, No motivation, No reason, No logic, No purpose, and No evidence of any of it.
It’s like, something came from nothing for no other reason to support your personal ignorance. You created god yourself. Just as I said.
No other possible answer.

So, how does this work for you ?

DocSavage · M

@yrger/Loser

Can’t do it can you ? You just keep making false claims to avoid answering questions that totally destroy you definition of god.
All creator gods , biblical or otherwise have supernatural powers. There’s no other way to get the job done. It’s the main reason I don’t believe in any of them. As I said before, when you asked for my description of god.
God is a why, not a what. You and every believer custom design them for the same reason.
You believe in the same god, because you’re hoping to get something from him. You’re trying to hide it. But you need keep him appeased, don’t you.

yrger · 80-89, M

@DocSavage

Hi Doc, you say I am hoping to get something from the God I know from reason, not hoping but already enjoying His goodness to mankind, for example He gives rain and air and sunshine to all mankind.

Now, if you don't want His gifts, the most logical act is to commit suicide.

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DocSavage · M
@yrger/Loser

Can’t do it can you ? You just keep making false claims to avoid answering questions that totally destroy you definition of god.
All creator gods , biblical or otherwise have supernatural powers. There’s no other way to get the job done. It’s the main reason I don’t believe in any of them. As I said before, when you asked for my description of god.
God is a why, not a what. You and every believer custom design them for the same reason.
You believe in the same god, because you’re hoping to get something from him. You’re trying to hide it. But you need keep him appeased, don’t you.

BibleData · M

@yrger

Now, if you don't want His gifts, the most logical act is to commit suicide.

Wow. That's about the dumbest antibiblical excursion I've ever witnessed. And that's saying something since I've been debating atheists for 30 years.

The Bible says that the gifts you are referring to are given to believer and unbeliever alike, and even that the unrighteous will more likely prosper than the righteous in this unrighteous world.

I suspect you're an ideologue with very little substance.