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Why the biblical atheist deny God exists.

Hi atheists, tell me why you deny God exists, of course you have to first define what is God.

I am Yrger the theist, and here is my definition of God:
"God is the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient."
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RosaMarie · 41-45, F
I think the current estimate of different religions that have every existed is around 2000. So the difference between a believer and me is only one in 2000. A believer thinks that 1999 religions are wrong. I think 2000 are wrong. We are so close to agreement.
yrger · 80-89, M
@RosaMarie

You should instead think on this supposition:
yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, you still fear to do the supposition.


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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, are you hesitant to engage in a supposition, why the fear?

Here is the supposition: You and I we are rational and intelligent, we are curious* about everything, and we never know anything about a bible among Christians.

Being curious and intelligent, not like other living things, for examples: the cattle, the donkey, and yes the frog, we ask ourselves Did something or someone put us here on earth?

So, being rational and thus intelligent and being curious about everything, which everything includes who or what brought us into existence?

From my part, I say something or someone did put us into existence.

What about you, will you maintain that nothing and no one put us into existence, we just popped into existence from nothingness?!




*Recall that curiosity is the mother of invention - that includes discovery.





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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, I see you all to be biblical atheists, because you all were previously fundamentalist bible Christians; but you all got tired of the biblical God - I can only imagine why.


Suppose you were never exposed to the bible, would you ever become atheists?


There are three ways man knows God exists:

1. By reasoning
2. By reading the bible (or the koran for Muslims)
3. By meditation

Prescind from the bible, try reasoning on where you and everything come from on ultimate terms, and you will also come to the existence of God, as the permanent self-existent spirit creator and operator of man and the universe and everything transient.
yrger · 80-89, M
@RosaMarie

Hi RosaMarie, don't waste your time and labor, just think on this supposition, because you have a brain, you are not like cattle, donkeys, and frogs.


yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, you still fear to do the supposition.


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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi atheists, are you hesitant to engage in a supposition, why the fear?

Here is the supposition: You and I we are rational and intelligent, we are curious* about everything, and we never know anything about a bible among Christians.

Being curious and intelligent, not like other living things, for examples: the cattle, the donkey, and yes the frog, we ask ourselves Did something or someone put us here on earth?

So, being rational and thus intelligent and being curious about everything, which everything includes who or what brought us into existence?

From my part, I say something or someone did put us into existence.

What about you, will you maintain that nothing and no one put us into existence, we just popped into existence from nothingness?!




*Recall that curiosity is the mother of invention - that includes discovery.
RosaMarie · 41-45, F
@yrger If you think the lesser animals aren't curious, get a housecat.
RosaMarie · 41-45, F
Also, the argument that you are making is that you, yourself, do not have enough information or intelligence to understand some questions you have, therefore there must be a god. That logic is so flawed that I hardly even know where to begin. I think that I'd have to start by explaining the scientific method and go from there. Frankly, you seem content in your ignorance. Blissful even. Enjoy it.
DocSavage · M
@yrger humans need an environment to survive. God doesn’t. He has no physical needs or limitations. Why create something so completely outside and radically different from himself ?
If it was a preconceived idea, then something must have programmed him with the the power and knowledge. He couldn’t have learned it from his parents, or in school. He has no outside influence, because there is no outside until he creates it. So where did the ability and idea arise from ?