How man can prove God exists.

I am a theist but I like to discuss with atheists how and why they became atheists, and I welcome atheists to discuss with me how and why I am a theist - all like as we are friends.

Why do I come to an atheists' forum, because sooner than later I always get banned in theists' forums.

So, perhaps I will stay indefinitely in your forum - and I like that very much!

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yrger · 80-89, M

Hi Entwistle, where are we now in our debate?

You say: "thoughts do exist (in dependence upon other causes) yet no thinker of those thoughts can be found."

Suppose you tell me who or what is looking for the thinker, for if no one or nothing is trying to find the thinker, then of course it does not matter that a thinker exists or not.

Before anything else, even a Buddha like Gautama has to exist first before he can think up such desperate fact that there is suffering, and try to find a way out of suffering, by what? Like killing himself - that is absoutely absurd, but then it is the peculiar talent of an enlightened Gautama to engage his brain with absurdities.

Entwistle · 51-55, M

@yrger Ending suffering involves realizing that no self exists,all our suffering comes from ignorance and desire.
Once no self (Anatta) is realized then there is no 'i' that suffers.
In the same way that thoughts do exist (in dependence upon other causes) yet no thinker of those thoughts can be found.

JimboSaturn · 56-60, M

@yrger I thought you wanted to discuss like we are all friends. Doesn't really seem so now.

Entwistle · 56-60, M

@yrger The illusion of a self...that is what seems to be searching for the thinker. How's upon further investigation no thinker can be found.
The idea of a thinker is just that..yet another idea,another thought.
Buddha and all other things do not exist outside of you. The mind and what it perceives are one and the same.

yrger · 80-89, M

@JimboSaturn

JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@yrger I thought you wanted to discuss like we are all friends. Doesn't really seem so now.

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I am happy to discuss with you on anything at all in re the topic of the thread, "How man can prove God exists."

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Glad to meet you, JimboSaturn.

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