How man can prove God exists.

I am a theist but I like to discuss with atheists how and why they became atheists, and I welcome atheists to discuss with me how and why I am a theist - all like as we are friends.

Why do I come to an atheists' forum, because sooner than later I always get banned in theists' forums.

So, perhaps I will stay indefinitely in your forum - and I like that very much!

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yrger · 80-89, M

Hi Entwistle, I ask you to produce say ten ideas that are synonimous with annata, but again as usual you go into another direction.

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Entwistle · 51-55, M
@yrger All things are collections of other things. Hence they have no inherent selfhood.

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Anyway, you say that "All things are collections of other things. Hence they have no inherent selfhood."

Right away, don't you notice that you are not into ideas but things, so you are already wrong with your insistence that you want to debate on ideas and not things.

And that is what I am telling you about, we cannot debate on ideas, but on things which exist like the nose our face.

In addition, you say, all things are collections of other things, hence they have no selfhood, what is a selfhood with yourself and myself which do sport a nose on our face?

So, your insistence on debating on ideas is totally absurd, and I fear that your brain is full of absurdities no matter that you recite Buddhist koans, which are before anythings else sounds, and they are things not ideas.

Lastly, ideas represent things, and not nothing - otherwise when your ideas represent nothingness, then you are insane or for a concrete word, crazy.

In addition, have you ever been to the Far East where there are Buddhist monks? They live by asking for foods from people, because they are very busy with meditation. What they should do is yes meditate but also grow rice and vegetables to feed themselves.

Now, tell me, was Gautama the Buddha sporting a body which he has to feed and also to defecate and urinate, is he an idea or a body like your body and my body?

So, I fear that you are full a Buddhist nonsense.

Entwistle · 56-60, M

@yrger I haven't quoted any Zen koans. The Buddha was a label,a name put on Gautama.
Can you not understand that all things are made up of other things? ...see..I am talking about things.
Does a chocolate cake exist independent from the flour,eggs,milk,chocolate that it is made from? All things are like this..they lack independent selfhood.