How man can prove God exists.

I am a theist but I like to discuss with atheists how and why they became atheists, and I welcome atheists to discuss with me how and why I am a theist - all like as we are friends.

Why do I come to an atheists' forum, because sooner than later I always get banned in theists' forums.

So, perhaps I will stay indefinitely in your forum - and I like that very much!

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yrger · 80-89, M

Hi everyone, do you know that god is equivalent to existence, so that the whole universe without any qualification is all god, and outside god i.e. existence there is only nothingness.

We humans are the greatest creation of god, and god created us to be intelligent.

From almost endless research, I have divided into three ways how man comes to know god exists:

1. By man's intelligence
2. By reading the bible for Christians and the koran for Muslims
3. By meditation

In my own case I come to know god exists with thinking that there is an ultimate
entity that is in chage of everything in the material part of the universe, that means all things which are subject to measurement, like we humans and also stones and atoms and all sub sub sub sub sub . . . atomic particles whatsoever.

All these components of the material universe observe order, and with living things like us humans, all our body parts observe order, so that we don't experience our nose falling off our face uncertainly.

Order implicates inevitably the existence of an entity that issues out orders.

And what or who is the ultimage entity in charge of issuing out orders i.e. commands?

Who else but god.

That is how and why I define god as the permanent self-existent container of all things whatsoever including the god-self, and god is the creator and operator of man and the universe and everything that is not the god-self.