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How man can prove God exists.

I am a theist but I like to discuss with atheists how and why they became atheists, and I welcome atheists to discuss with me how and why I am a theist - all like as we are friends.

Why do I come to an atheists' forum, because sooner than later I always get banned in theists' forums.

So, perhaps I will stay indefinitely in your forum - and I like that very much!
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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi everyone, I had just noticed that I forgot to define what is hubris in my post, so I will now define it, and you will read it as it now is presented below:

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yrger · 80-89, M
Hi everyone.

Before anything else, there is existence as distinct to and opposite to nothingness. -Yrger

Please take notice, everyone, of the statement above, from me the theist author of the present thread, "How man can prove God exists."

Now, take notice also and most importantly this line from newjaninev2 :
"The Big Bang was not the start of the physical universe (what other sort is there)." (Read her post below.)


Hi newjaninev2, you ask what other sort is there aside from the physical universe.

I tell you, there is the totality of existence aside from the physical universe which is just a mere 4% of the physical universe that you and scientists have access to, while the 96% of the physical universe is beyond access to you and scientists.

So, take a big dose of reality into your heart and mind, instead of wallowing in vain empty hubris.*

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"newjaninev2 · 51-55, F
@yrger the Big Bang was not the start of the physical universe (what other sort is there).
It was the start of the expansion of the universe.
That expansion led to relative positioning i.e. space time, so it is incoherent and meaningless to speak of ‘before’ the Big Bang.
I’d be happy to discuss that with you - but you run away from all such offers, so…
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You say the Big Bang was the start of the expansion of the physical universe.

So, you do admit that the physical universe does have a beginning in regard to its expansion, yes or no?


That is one question for you, Newjaninev2.

The second question for you and scientists:
Are you and scientists not indulging in an extreme narrow mindset with restrictively concentrating on the 'physical universe', for the totality of the universe is certainly much much much much greater than just the physical universe?


I await your answers to my two questions.
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Cfr. [i]Oxford Languages[/i]:

*hubris

excessive pride or self-confidence.
"the self-assured hubris among economists was shaken in the late 1980s"

Similar:
arrogance conceit conceitedness haughtiness pride vanity self-importance self-conceit pomposity superciliousness feeling of superiority hauteur uppitiness big-headedness

Opposite:
modesty
(in Greek tragedy) excessive pride toward or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis.